Jayne is a girl's name.

River ,'Trash'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


§ ita § - Jan 05, 2004 6:39:13 am PST #1063 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I heard that the five hours was a mis-statement -- that the > 4 hours and 50 minutes was supposed to be > 4 hours and 15 minutes.


Jessica - Jan 05, 2004 6:42:58 am PST #1064 of 3902
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The main reason I can't see the EE coming out in May is that the movie will have only been out of theatres for a month or two at that point. Studios usually like to leave more space than that.

4 hours and 50 minutes was supposed to be > 4 hours and 15 minutes.

That makes a lot of sense. It's still pretty damn long.


Anne W. - Jan 05, 2004 6:43:51 am PST #1065 of 3902
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I wonder if the May date refers to the release of the theatrical version on DVD.


Consuela - Jan 05, 2004 6:50:00 am PST #1066 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Not five hours?

t chin quivers


Nutty - Jan 05, 2004 7:03:46 am PST #1067 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Suela, we can watch the countryside beauty shots in slomo. That will make it 5 hours.

(Although I would prefer a 5-hour cut, because at least there's a chance they'd cover all the story in as much fullness as would make the story flow properly. I.e., nobody disappears for 1/3 of the movie. I'm looking at the time-budget, and all the scenes that got cut, and 4:15 doesn't look like enough.)


Volans - Jan 05, 2004 7:30:46 am PST #1068 of 3902
move out and draw fire

My Tolkein-virgin cow-orker saw it the second time this weekend, and came in to pepper me with questions. Given that he said things like "You know, they mention a balrog once in the first movie, but you never see one" and "No, the things the black riders ride are called "nazgul" - remember, the Witch-King says "Never get between a nazgul and his prey" ?" he was very emotionally into the movies.

He wanted to hear all about how Saruman dies in the books, so my roomies and I told the story of the Scouring, and he was almost tearing up at the end. His comment, "Wow. I mean, I like the bit where they are at the table and the pumpkin is more exciting than they are, but wow. That would've been so awesome. Just perfect."

I'm guessing the DVD in May is the theatrical version, based on past performance.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 05, 2004 7:34:50 am PST #1069 of 3902
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

4 hours and 50 minutes was supposed to be > 4 hours and 15 minutes.

I did hear that Jackson's first rough cut of the movie WAS in the 5 hour range, though.


Kathy A - Jan 05, 2004 8:54:23 am PST #1070 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

watching FotR after seeing RotK is absolutely heartbreaking.

Last night, the Encore Action channel had the theatrical release of FotR on (fullscreen, damnit--grumblegrumbledamnmoviechannelscan'tevenshowwidescreen versionsgrumble), which I haven't seen in a very long while, and I watched it (well, I spent the first hour flipping back and forth between it and The Frighteners on SciFi). Considering I haven't seen any version of FotR since Trilogy Tuesday, I was practically in tears seeing laughing, cheerful, healthy Frodo in the Shire.

he spends the whole day in bed moaning.

Was there a Beta unit involved? (Sorry, my mind went into The Last Starfighter mode for a minute...)


Steph L. - Jan 05, 2004 8:55:40 am PST #1071 of 3902
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

(well, I spent the first hour flipping back and forth between it and The Frighteners on SciFi)

That must have made for an interesting combined movie....


Kathy A - Jan 05, 2004 9:08:21 am PST #1072 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

It was only the second time I've seen The Frighteners, and the first time I've seen most of the first hour, but I keep on missing the introduction of the whacked-out FBI agent played by Jeffrey Combs. What's with his obsession with the Michael J. Fox character? Anyway, it's a decent flick that gets better as it gets more serious, like LotR does. Fox really does a good job playing the increasingly stressed out Frank. Oh, and another question: during the FBI agent's questioning, he asks Frank why Frank's shaking, and assumes that Frank is pulling some kind of mojo on him. Was the shaking part of Fox's Parkinson's Disease, or part of the script?