And I myself will be wearing pink taffeta as chenille would not go with my complexion.

Giles ,'Touched'


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Volans - Jan 20, 2006 7:22:54 am PST #9837 of 10002
move out and draw fire

I thought Banewreaker couldn't decide what it wanted to be. Parts of the world were original and interesting, and the rest was the gimmick of LOTR from the bad guy's view.


JohnSweden - Jan 20, 2006 7:25:01 pm PST #9838 of 10002
I can't even.

Hi Megan! I'm doing fine, thanks. How are things down your way?

The board just ate this long spleen-venting post I wrote on Banewreaker, but I am unbowed. Yeah, Raq, she does this allusion-y to LoTR thing through both books, holding parts up to the light, shining it through a different lens, blah blah. I appreciated the craft of it, but reading the books just made me feel impatient and cranky. Perhaps someone out in the internets liked it and has a perspective on it that would help me like it more. The thing about linking your sympathy (or at least, your attention) to these monumentally horrible people, then hitching you to their inevitable doom spiral totally bugged, eventually. I wanted to see some way serious elvish ass-rendage, but she bailed on me. The smuggest people win. Bah.


JoeCrow - Jan 21, 2006 5:32:40 pm PST #9839 of 10002
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

Dang it, I was hoping that Banewreaker was gonna be a good anti-Tolkien, so's I could mine it for ideas on how to wrangle my anti-Tolkien outta my head. Guess I'll just hafta use it as a bad example instead.

So, speaking of anti-Tolkien, anybody read Mary Gentle's Grunts? That was a fun one.


Connie Neil - Jan 21, 2006 6:39:23 pm PST #9840 of 10002
brillig

anybody read Mary Gentle's Grunts

Yup.

"Pass me another elf, this one's split."


Volans - Jan 22, 2006 12:08:25 am PST #9841 of 10002
move out and draw fire

"Pass me another elf, this one's split."

That's Freddie Mercury, isn't it? "Bring me another boy, this one's broke."

Banewreaker was actually not just anti-LOTR, but also anti-Silmarillion. The Silmarils and Luthien and such were also in there. But it wasn't just that; she also had semi-created her own world, with gods with cool names who each created a particular race, and such. Most of my complaints with it were more writing-based: Characters and cultures and places were introduced just to be destroyed, motivations seemed implausible, and frankly it just didn't grip me.

For fantasy writing, Bujold's latest three are my favorites of the moment. Her world is really cool, and each book has a distinct flavour.

I just finished Woken Furies, the third Takeshi Kovacs novel. Better than the last one, and extremely grim. A small quibble, in that he refers to Romanian as Slavic. And an amusing thing: there's a character who goes by the nom de guerre "Vlad Tepes" and it turns out his real name is "Mallory." When I read that part I had just picked up our Vlad Tepes doll from where Mallory had been chewing on it.


Connie Neil - Jan 22, 2006 12:18:22 pm PST #9842 of 10002
brillig

That's Freddie Mercury, isn't it? "Bring me another boy, this one's broke."

Considering the way the elf got split, I hope not.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Jan 22, 2006 3:40:17 pm PST #9843 of 10002
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Mary Gentle

She was a fan of Angel, if I remember correctly. She wrote some nice things about Tim on, I wanna say, Usenet.


billytea - Jan 22, 2006 4:58:48 pm PST #9844 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

She was a fan of Angel, if I remember correctly. She wrote some nice things about Tim on, I wanna say, Usenet.

Now I wanna say Usenet too!

t steps away from keyboard

Ok, it's out of my system.


DavidS - Jan 23, 2006 2:39:10 pm PST #9845 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I browsed through this book - Self-Made Man by Nora Vincent at lunch and it was really interesting.

Basically Black Like Me except she went in male drag for 18 months. Not a cheap stunt and it's well written and very generous to the people she's with. A lot of insight and compassion and a fascinating story.


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2006 2:42:56 pm PST #9846 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read Salon's take on it, and it was pretty complimentary. Entertainment Weekly really hated it. More precisely her.