Sometimes when I'm sitting in class... You know, I'm not thinking about class, 'cause that would never happen. I think about kissing you. And it's like everything stops. It's like, it's like freeze frame. Willow kissage.

Oz ,'First Date'


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billytea - Jan 22, 2006 4:58:48 pm PST #9844 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

She was a fan of Angel, if I remember correctly. She wrote some nice things about Tim on, I wanna say, Usenet.

Now I wanna say Usenet too!

t steps away from keyboard

Ok, it's out of my system.


DavidS - Jan 23, 2006 2:39:10 pm PST #9845 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I browsed through this book - Self-Made Man by Nora Vincent at lunch and it was really interesting.

Basically Black Like Me except she went in male drag for 18 months. Not a cheap stunt and it's well written and very generous to the people she's with. A lot of insight and compassion and a fascinating story.


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2006 2:42:56 pm PST #9846 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read Salon's take on it, and it was pretty complimentary. Entertainment Weekly really hated it. More precisely her.


Betsy HP - Jan 23, 2006 2:43:57 pm PST #9847 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

God, I love Smart Bitches, Trashy Books.

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DavidS - Jan 23, 2006 2:47:41 pm PST #9848 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Entertainment Weekly really hated it. More precisely her.

Huh. I found her very likeable. Honest, emotionally generous, open.


erikaj - Jan 23, 2006 3:12:37 pm PST #9849 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

sounds good, Hec.


meara - Jan 23, 2006 3:29:49 pm PST #9850 of 10002

Heh. See, whereas I read Salon's take a "wow, she's kinda crazy. Or possibly a lot crazy"

Might have to pick it up, though. But it might make me scream a lot.

It SERIOUSLY puzzles me, knowing what friends of mine go through with having people scream at them on the street, kick them out of bathrooms, etc, that she just magically managed to pass perfectly for a year and a half.


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2006 4:19:26 pm PST #9851 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She had sex with a woman, for crying out loud.

I guess no one expects it.

I don't know.


Betsy HP - Jan 23, 2006 4:31:59 pm PST #9852 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

It's happened before; that jazz musician who was a woman passing as a man had at least one girlfriend who never knew, or swore she didn't.


meara - Jan 23, 2006 4:42:03 pm PST #9853 of 10002

Heh. Somehow, the having sex with a woman part isn't what shocks me! Though that's pretty darn weird, it only takes one clueless woman. To pass for a year and a half takes a LOT of random strangers not outing you (which, sure, most people even if they twig, aren't going to point and go "OH MY GOD THAT'S A WOMAN!", but...seems like there's bound to be a guy in the bathroom who's gonna take offense. I'm betting she made a concerted effort to use single or unisex bathrooms a lot. Though men are a lot less likely to call you out than women (who can and will seriously throw a fuss if a MTF or butch woman walks in), they're also more likely to kick your ass)