I'm not on the ship. I'm in the ship. I am the ship.

River ,'Objects In Space'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Gus - Dec 09, 2005 6:33:03 pm PST #9606 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

vicariously excited

I'm getting a t-shirt with these words. See if I don't!


Beverly - Dec 09, 2005 6:34:56 pm PST #9607 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh Kate, I'm so envious! Having read--and loved--several things of hers, I wrote Kushner a fan letter once, and got a lovely reply from her. She seems to be a very gracious person. She also made a point of saying she liked my holiday icon last year on LJ. Have fun--and take notes! So you can tell us all about it later.


Beverly - Dec 09, 2005 6:35:27 pm PST #9608 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

And also? Gus! Hey there!


Gus - Dec 09, 2005 6:41:37 pm PST #9609 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Hey, Bev!

vicariously envious

Another t-shirt.


Consuela - Dec 09, 2005 6:41:57 pm PST #9610 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Ellen Kushner is wicked cool, and a fantabulous prose stylist. Color me somewhat jealous.


Kate P. - Dec 09, 2005 6:42:43 pm PST #9611 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

So, why haven't you read any of their stuff?

Oh, just haven't gotten around to it yet--Swordspoint and Thomas the Rhymer have been on my list for ages. Maybe I'll pick up one of them at the bookstore tomorrow after my class. From what I've heard, they're exactly my kind of book.

Having read--and loved--several things of hers, I wrote Kushner a fan letter once, and got a lovely reply from her.

Very cool! I like her already.


§ ita § - Dec 11, 2005 5:25:10 am PST #9612 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have a Goblet Of Fire question. Watching the movie stripped so much away from the book, and I don't remember much of that anyway.

As a friend said -- what a plan! Build a mountain to make Harry climb to the top of it and touch something, instead of just reaching over and grabbing him any old time.

Was there a justification for why Crouch Jr. went through all that effort when he had Harry right there for the bloodletting the whole year?


Kate P. - Dec 11, 2005 5:58:57 am PST #9613 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Well, he had to get Harry to the graveyard somehow, right? I don't think he could have just taken a vial of Harry's blood and brought it to Voldemort; I think Harry had to be there, probably alive. (No memory of whether or not this was explained in the book or whether it's just my fanwank.) Anyway, so you can't Apparate or Disapparate from the Hogwarts grounds, or Floo in or out, and there wouldn't have been all that many opportunities to grab Harry and make off with him through the Hogwarts gates, so... this was the easiest way?

It's a half-assed explanation at best, but it's what I remember from the book.


Nilly - Dec 11, 2005 6:07:04 am PST #9614 of 10002
Swouncing

Was there a justification for why Crouch Jr. went through all that effort when he had Harry right there for the bloodletting the whole year?

ita, I hadn't watched the movie and I've read the book quite a while ago, but in the book the whole plan had a point.

They needed to get Harry to where Voldemort wanted to do his resurrection spell, where his (V's) father was burried. The way to do it was to use a portkey, touching an object that transforms you from one place to another (it was introduced on the World Cup, in the book - that's how Harry and co. got there).

However, these don't work in Hogwarts (just like apparating doesn't work there). So they needed to plan a way for Harry to touch one, in a place where Hogwarts' safety spells were drawn off. That's the maze for the third challenge, IIRC. So they had to make sure Harry gets there and gets to the Cup first, because that's the only portkey they could have him touch.

Harry had to actually be there, not just his blood - Voldemort tries to kill him (and fails, again, but that's not the point of his plan).

Um, IIRC, and I'm not really sure IRC, but I've just skimmed this thread and that was the only topic I recognized, so there you go.

[Edit: at least IR similarly to Kate, with whom I x-posted.]


Lee - Dec 11, 2005 6:21:10 am PST #9615 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I also think that Voldemort wanted to be the one to kill Harry, and until the spell was done, he wouldn't have been strong or mobile enough to do so.