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'The Message'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Nutty - Oct 24, 2005 4:34:23 pm PDT #9264 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Hey all, topic for discussion. How do you write a non-fiction work full of opinions (contentious issues, conflicting viewpoints, cockamamie theories and all) without over-use of the following construction?

To [name], [fact] meant [opinion].

I know there is a way to do it, and I know Howard Bryant does not know that way. In fact, to Howard, the above construction means good journalism. I don't know how to tell him (except in, you know, ranty terms in my livejournal) that I wrote better than he does when I was in the sixth grade.

(The whole book -- Juicing the Game, about recent baseball history and steroids -- is about opinions, including those of journalists. There is a whole chapter about beat-writers' relationships with players. There is no point in the book thus far where Howard Bryant has said outright that he is a baseball journalist. )

Ironically, just the other day I was pronouncing John McPhee's two-part essay on coal trains in the New Yorker kinda boring, because, I just don't care about coal trains. But the topic was boring, and, considering I was reading about coal trains, the writing was pretty good.


flea - Oct 24, 2005 4:47:14 pm PDT #9265 of 10002
information libertarian

see, mr. flea was fascinated by the coal trains.

I want to like John McPhee, but I always get bored with him, even when he's writing about inherently dramatic things like trying to stop a volcano using seawater.


Consuela - Oct 24, 2005 7:45:42 pm PDT #9266 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I love John McPhee, because he can make even the dullest things, like the orange industry, interesting. The Curve of Binding Energy? The Deltoid Pumpkin Seed? Edge of my seat.


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2005 7:46:33 pm PDT #9267 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Curve of Binding Energy?

That sounds kinky.

The Deltoid Pumpkin Seed?

That does not.


Consuela - Oct 24, 2005 8:03:56 pm PDT #9268 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The Curve of Binding Energy is about the nuclear power industry, and the security and other dangers inherent in disposing of the waste. The Deltoid Pumpkin Seed is about a unique kind of aircraft, one that marries airplane technology with something like a zeppelin.


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2005 8:06:44 pm PDT #9269 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Curve of Binding Energy is about the nuclear power industry, and the security and other dangers inherent in disposing of the waste.

Huh. I liked it more when it sound like that book where they had the houses of sex professionals.

Still, I suppose it could be interesting.


Nutty - Oct 25, 2005 6:50:41 am PDT #9270 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

trying to stop a volcano using seawater.

This does sound interesting. The ocean does it all the time, but that is probably not what you are talking about.


flea - Oct 25, 2005 7:37:11 am PDT #9271 of 10002
information libertarian

It's one of the essays in McPhee's The Control of Nature, which I have kicking around not quite finished somewhere.


Volans - Oct 25, 2005 7:39:01 am PDT #9272 of 10002
move out and draw fire

huh. Amazon informs me that Stephen R. Donaldson has a new Thomas Covenent book out. I guess he realized that no one wanted to read his ponderous rape fantasies.


Dana - Oct 25, 2005 7:41:01 am PDT #9273 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Um. Okay, but (spoilers for whole series) isn't Thomas Covenant dead? Pushing up daisies? Pining for the fjords?