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Aims - Aug 02, 2005 6:53:47 am PDT #8868 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

(Other one being Hagrid's assertion that he bought Fluffy off 'A Greek Bloke' down the pub being changed to 'An Irish Bloke'. 'Cause Cerberus is such a well known Irish myth. Not.)

::palmface, palmface, palmface for having JUST gotten it::


Connie Neil - Aug 02, 2005 6:56:33 am PDT #8869 of 10002
brillig

::palmface, palmface, palmface for having JUST gotten it::

YOu are not alone, Empress. I had no idea they'd changed it, and it didn't ping me as strange that an Irishman had a Cerberus. Nothing in the back of my head said, "But Cerberus is a Greek myth." I probably thought, "OK, amazing creatures are wandering about, and you can pick them up in pubs, neat."


erikaj - Aug 02, 2005 7:45:54 am PDT #8870 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Me too. Although the Greek thing is funnier. Weird little bit of ethnic "sensitivity", maybe?


Nutty - Aug 02, 2005 7:55:23 am PDT #8871 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

It may be how hard it is to say "Greek bloke" without sounding silly. Those are some consonants to get your mouth around. Personally, I would have changed it to "Greek fellow" or some other British-sounding way of saying "dude" without saying "dude," but if you (a) don't get that it's a joke AND (b) can't say it smoothly, then I can see why the joke would just disappear along the wayside.


Fay - Aug 02, 2005 10:20:05 am PDT #8872 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Do you think the filmmakers didn't get the reference?

Yes. But that they thought they needed to substitute Irish for Greek - even if they didn't get that it was a wee joke, wtf? Is this some stupid 'we heart the Irish' thing? It seems like such a pointless change. I mean, I think you may be right about it being some kind of odd ethnic sensitivity - but WHAT ethnic sensitivity? Greeks can't be mentioned? There aren't enough mentions of the Irish? What?

t baffled


erikaj - Aug 02, 2005 10:25:58 am PDT #8873 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Maybe they thought it was like a Greek Stereotype, and worried about fielding letters from scads of touchy men named Nikos? Or maybe I just watch the Sopranos too much.(Because several of those characters are very rabid about portrayals of Italian characters. It's very meta.)


Fay - Aug 02, 2005 10:28:57 am PDT #8874 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Maybe they thought it was like a Greek Stereotype

Hee. I like this. Those Greeks, flogging dodgy monsters (the ones we forgot to nick when we stole their antiquities) to half-giants in pubs. Yep.

Now if it had been in a kebab shop...


Narrator - Aug 02, 2005 10:33:35 am PDT #8875 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Those Greeks, flogging dodgy monsters (the ones we forgot to nick when we stole their antiquities) to half-giants in pubs.

Payback is a bitch.


Trudy Booth - Aug 02, 2005 11:05:39 am PDT #8876 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Hermione's family bugs me.

We never hear about them. She sees them about two weeks a year and no one seems to care if she spends all her non-school time with the Weasleys. I'd love to have a chapter on what it was like for her in the Muggle world.


sumi - Aug 02, 2005 11:06:30 am PDT #8877 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I think Harry should spend part of his summer with her -- because it is odd.

They're proud of her, but they don't want to see her.