Spike: Ladies. Come on in. Plenty of blood in the fridge, don't be shy. Dawn: You mean like, real blood? Spike: What do you think? Dawn: Mostly I think, 'Eew!'

'Potential'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


ChiKat - Jul 21, 2005 2:47:14 pm PDT #8434 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Yikes, Fay. That site it scary. Not only for what the person wrote, but that picture of Hermione? A bit too adult looking, IMO.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 21, 2005 3:04:22 pm PDT #8435 of 10002
What is even happening?

Whoa, that is losing it a bit, yeah?

Get this bit:

I believe one of two things (or possibly a combination of both) happened. She saw most likely intended to write H/G, R/Hr from the start, but when she saw that there were readers out there who were in love with the idea of H/Hr, instead of going ahead and being honest with the readers she willfully mislead H/Hr shippers by writing in H/Hr clues, writing Hermione as the lead girl in the series, the one most important to Harry for the sole purpose of fueling shipping wars, which she admitted to enjoying. This is fucking sick in my opinion. She purposefully played with the hearts of so many loyal readers, INTENDING to hurt them with book six.


Consuela - Jul 21, 2005 3:06:59 pm PDT #8436 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Wow, that's quite...

insane, really.

Gotta love shipper wars.


Dana - Jul 21, 2005 3:08:05 pm PDT #8437 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm glad Rowling has the money to make up for it.

No, seriously. You gotta deal with that kind of crazy on that kind of level, you might as well get paid for it.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 21, 2005 3:08:44 pm PDT #8438 of 10002
What is even happening?

See, everyone should start out fandom in a Mutant Enemy fandom, or a Soap Opera. It's the only way to learn hard, fast, and for real about getting your heart crushed under the boot of a writer.


JZ - Jul 21, 2005 3:10:23 pm PDT #8439 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Eucch. And, among many other cringey things, I can't help wondering exactly how that person read the books, what lenses or blinders or chamber of mirrors she was using to take it all in. Because I really, really can't see that there was that much basis for what that shipper, and all the others, pinned all their hopes on.

Not to waste vast amounts of energy on picking apart the craxy shippers (having probably way less moral highground on that front than Fay), but I couldn't get two paragraphs into the first page of that site without catching my eye on this:

What happened to the Hermione who longed to spend time with Harry and was so sorely disappointed that he was not made prefect with her? What happened to the Hermione who was Harry's number one confidant?

Ummm... wha? I've just gone back and started rereading OoTP after finishing HBP, and I read the prefect section Wednesday night, so it's fairly fresh in my mind. And she wasn't all that sorely disappointed. She was a little disconcerted because she and Harry had always been the big achievers and Ron the shuffly supporto-guy Xander of the trio, and this changed their dynamics considerably; and she was upset that Harry was upset -- but sorely disappointed? Nuh uh. What book was this chick reading?

And as to her second question, she's standing right exactly there. Throughout HBP Harry indicates again and again, and doesn't hesitate to say out loud, how much respect he has for Hermione's abilities and how deeply he values her as a friend; the book ends, after all that sorrow, with his vast relief and joy that she, along with Ron, will be unshakably at his side no matter what happens next. Her friendship and loyalty are exactly half of what makes the horror of the end of the book bearable to him.

Grrr. This woman's getting up my nose. She needs to (a) read the actual text that's actually there, and (b) possibly enjoy the fact that for once in a berjillion years there's a decently written m/f friendship that's deep and true and yet remains purely friendship. Bah.


Fay - Jul 21, 2005 3:22:19 pm PDT #8440 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Word, JZ. Word word word.


Anne W. - Jul 21, 2005 3:45:40 pm PDT #8441 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

JZ, I especially agree with this bit:

for once in a berjillion years there's a decently written m/f friendship that's deep and true and yet remains purely friendship.

That is something that is so rare and many of the younger readers desperately need to see, I think.

I'm also delighted that the Xanderish character is the one who gets the girl.


tommyrot - Jul 21, 2005 3:47:31 pm PDT #8442 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Gotta love shipper wars.

Now I'm picturing some movie set in the post-Shipper Wars future... society has crumbled, much like in the Mad Max movies....


Polter-Cow - Jul 21, 2005 4:22:01 pm PDT #8443 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Narrator, a friend of mine has a different theory about the Gryffindor artifact. He thinks it's the Sorting Hat, through which Voldemort has been manipulating Hogwarts for years.