Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.

'Heart Of Gold'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Consuela - May 18, 2005 4:00:02 pm PDT #7694 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm trying to recall if there was sexual abuse in the Alvin Maker novels. I forget.


Betsy HP - May 18, 2005 5:16:33 pm PDT #7695 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I think there may not have been. I thought the first two or so were excellent, till it all turned into Joseph! Smith! Does! It! Right!


Consuela - May 18, 2005 5:56:53 pm PDT #7696 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I liked the first 2, and then it went somewhere I didn't like, so I stopped reading.


Fred Pete - May 18, 2005 6:18:49 pm PDT #7697 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

I was in NC when Ender was winning every award in sight and Card, as a local author, was the toast of local fandom. He struck me as a good short story author (look at the original "Ender's Game" and the original Alvin Maker story) who suffered when he tried to stretch it out to a series of novels.

I can't say I saw anvilly Mormonism, but I never read too far into any of his series.


Jessica - May 18, 2005 6:25:32 pm PDT #7698 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He's gotten more anvilly in recent years. (And his political columns make me want to burn every book of his I own.)

But if I ignore all of that, I still love Ender's Game, The Worthing Saga, and the Tales of Dread stories.


sumi - May 19, 2005 8:51:42 am PDT #7699 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I've just started reading March by Geraldine Brooks. I brought it to read over lunch. Well, I just read something that pushed me right out of the book. The book is written from the POV of Mr. March -- the father of the Marches from Little Women. It's set during the Civil War and many of the chapters start with a letter that he has written to his family back in Massachusetts. In the section where Mr. March is talking about the first time that he met his future wife. The author writes:

After the service, her brother presented Miss Margaret Marie Day, whom everyone in the family called by the affectionate childhood name of Marmee.

(p. 60)

Didn't we have a discussion elsewhere at b.org about " Marmee and what that nickname actually is? I remember that it was here or possibly in Readerville that it was pointed out that Marmee is a phonetic spelling by a New Englander of "Mommy". Doesn't it seem like somebody writing a book about this topic should have figured that out?


Hil R. - May 19, 2005 10:46:09 am PDT #7700 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm rereading Little Men right now, and Jo's five-year-old son calls her "Marmar," which lends a lot more weight to the "Marmee" is "Mommy" theory. Having her daughters call her by a familiar nickname like that doesn't seem to make much sense.


Sophia Brooks - May 19, 2005 11:00:22 am PDT #7701 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

What is the Marmee is Mommy theory? I always thought Marmee was the word the family used for "mother person", sort of like some people call their grandmas 'nanny'.


sumi - May 19, 2005 11:02:04 am PDT #7702 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

That it's actually "Mommy" spelled with a Massachusetts accent.


Hil R. - May 19, 2005 11:02:33 am PDT #7703 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

What is the Marmee is Mommy theory? I always thought Marmee was the word the family used for "mother person", sort of like some people call their grandmas 'nanny'.

I'd always figured that, too, until someone pointed out that "Marmee," said with a New England accent, sounds almost the same as "Mommy."