Inara: Who's winning? Simon: I can't tell. They don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.

'Bushwhacked'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Fred Pete - May 18, 2005 6:18:49 pm PDT #7697 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

I was in NC when Ender was winning every award in sight and Card, as a local author, was the toast of local fandom. He struck me as a good short story author (look at the original "Ender's Game" and the original Alvin Maker story) who suffered when he tried to stretch it out to a series of novels.

I can't say I saw anvilly Mormonism, but I never read too far into any of his series.


Jessica - May 18, 2005 6:25:32 pm PDT #7698 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He's gotten more anvilly in recent years. (And his political columns make me want to burn every book of his I own.)

But if I ignore all of that, I still love Ender's Game, The Worthing Saga, and the Tales of Dread stories.


sumi - May 19, 2005 8:51:42 am PDT #7699 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I've just started reading March by Geraldine Brooks. I brought it to read over lunch. Well, I just read something that pushed me right out of the book. The book is written from the POV of Mr. March -- the father of the Marches from Little Women. It's set during the Civil War and many of the chapters start with a letter that he has written to his family back in Massachusetts. In the section where Mr. March is talking about the first time that he met his future wife. The author writes:

After the service, her brother presented Miss Margaret Marie Day, whom everyone in the family called by the affectionate childhood name of Marmee.

(p. 60)

Didn't we have a discussion elsewhere at b.org about " Marmee and what that nickname actually is? I remember that it was here or possibly in Readerville that it was pointed out that Marmee is a phonetic spelling by a New Englander of "Mommy". Doesn't it seem like somebody writing a book about this topic should have figured that out?


Hil R. - May 19, 2005 10:46:09 am PDT #7700 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm rereading Little Men right now, and Jo's five-year-old son calls her "Marmar," which lends a lot more weight to the "Marmee" is "Mommy" theory. Having her daughters call her by a familiar nickname like that doesn't seem to make much sense.


Sophia Brooks - May 19, 2005 11:00:22 am PDT #7701 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

What is the Marmee is Mommy theory? I always thought Marmee was the word the family used for "mother person", sort of like some people call their grandmas 'nanny'.


sumi - May 19, 2005 11:02:04 am PDT #7702 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

That it's actually "Mommy" spelled with a Massachusetts accent.


Hil R. - May 19, 2005 11:02:33 am PDT #7703 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

What is the Marmee is Mommy theory? I always thought Marmee was the word the family used for "mother person", sort of like some people call their grandmas 'nanny'.

I'd always figured that, too, until someone pointed out that "Marmee," said with a New England accent, sounds almost the same as "Mommy."


Jesse - May 19, 2005 11:02:58 am PDT #7704 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think I just made that up, but it makes so much sense to me!


Sophia Brooks - May 19, 2005 11:05:01 am PDT #7705 of 10002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

That it's actually "Mommy" spelled with a Massachusetts accent.

OH! Although, I sort of feel that Meg and Jo were much too old to call their mother "mommy". Of course, my mother hated ALL the nicknames and actually insisted, from the time I was a small child, that I call her "Mother".


§ ita § - May 19, 2005 11:05:41 am PDT #7706 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I sort of feel that Meg and Jo were much too old to call their mother "mommy"

I still call my mother Mummy -- and it's not strange, culturally. It may just be a time and place thing.