Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Connie Neil - Mar 04, 2005 4:58:18 am PST #7150 of 10002
brillig

For something completely different, has anyone else read "Focault's Pendulum"? I'm just starting it and thinking I need to buy everything Umberto Eco's ever written. Fortunately I already have "Name of the Rose."


billytea - Mar 04, 2005 5:22:57 am PST #7151 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

For something completely different, has anyone else read "Focault's Pendulum"? I'm just starting it and thinking I need to buy everything Umberto Eco's ever written. Fortunately I already have "Name of the Rose."

I have read it, and adored it. The middle was at times a tough slog, but IMO it was worth it.


Vonnie K - Mar 04, 2005 5:32:56 am PST #7152 of 10002
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

has anyone else read "Focault's Pendulum"

Yeap--wow, it's been more than 10 years. Maybe it's time for a re-read. Brilliant book, dizzying stuff. I agree a bulk of the middle is rather difficult to go through, and sometimes I just wanted to shake the book and yell, "y'all are batshit crazy!!", but at the end, it made me happy and sort of exhauted, like I got off a fun, weird-ass rollercoaster ride.


Connie Neil - Mar 04, 2005 5:54:26 am PST #7153 of 10002
brillig

It's reminding--so far--a great deal of the Illuminatus! trilogy, with its hints of deeper secrets and Things Man Was Not Meant To Know.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 6:19:08 am PST #7154 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

"Now be careful out there."

My inner pedant won't let me not say, it's "Let's be careful out there."


Typo Boy - Mar 04, 2005 7:24:00 am PST #7155 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But Pendulum makes fun of conspiracy theories - and not affectionately (which I love). It has the greatest satire on "Old Dead White Bill not the real author" trope I've ever encountered. That alone would make it worthwhile, but it is a very minor part of the book. (It makes a real argument for the conspiracy theory view being not just wrong, but evil. Er - but it has a great plot and characterization. A lot of fun as well. I just have a quirky way of reading; I always remember the arguments.)


Connie Neil - Mar 04, 2005 7:39:04 am PST #7156 of 10002
brillig

But Pendulum makes fun of conspiracy theories

And you think Illumantus! doesn't? Illumantus! makes fun of everything.


DavidS - Mar 04, 2005 7:51:47 am PST #7157 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My inner pedant won't let me not say, it's "Let's be careful out there."

Not inner enough! That's okay, I've been MisQuotey O'WrongPhrase all year.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 04, 2005 7:57:35 am PST #7158 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Not inner enough!

Well, my outer pedant just points and laughs.


Anne W. - Mar 04, 2005 9:00:36 am PST #7159 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Carrot bothers me. We never see inside his head, he's always portrayed as he appears to others.

I think that's they only reason he works as well as he does as a character. If you could see what he was thinking, it would break the mystique, I think. I love the possibility that underneath that simple facade, his mind might be as twisty as Vetinari's.