Wash: Mal, your dead army buddy's on the bridge! Zoe: He ain't dead. Wash: Oh.

'The Message'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Susan W. - Mar 03, 2005 3:01:23 pm PST #7103 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Hmm. Maybe. Still sounds a little piratey for my tastes.


erikaj - Mar 03, 2005 3:13:06 pm PST #7104 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

My favorite Erica Jong has pirate chapters in it.


Susan W. - Mar 03, 2005 3:22:24 pm PST #7105 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I rarely like caper stories either. It's a Thing.


erikaj - Mar 03, 2005 3:29:42 pm PST #7106 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I live for those, obviously. In fact, I anticipate a life of crime so that I might go legit and get pulled back in for one last big score.


DavidS - Mar 03, 2005 3:32:42 pm PST #7107 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In fact, I anticipate a life of crime so that I might go legit and get pulled back in for one last big score.

I totally get this. After I saw The Hustler I remember thinking, "I can't wait until I'm old enough to have a fucked up relationship based on solace, remorse, fucking and drinking."


Susan W. - Mar 03, 2005 3:34:25 pm PST #7108 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

There's a part of my brain that's just too literal. Unless you do a good job of making it a Robin Hood situation, I'm like, "But why am I supposed to root for these people? What's heroic about crime?"


DavidS - Mar 03, 2005 3:40:15 pm PST #7109 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

"What's heroic about crime?"

Heh. Psst, Susan works for The Man!


Susan W. - Mar 03, 2005 3:43:41 pm PST #7110 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Just call me White She-Devil.


erikaj - Mar 03, 2005 3:52:47 pm PST #7111 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Don't know...how much do you like mayo, Susan? Aw, Hec, that's well, not sweet, exactly. It kind of makes me want to break your heart or something. I am so Elmore Leonard's devoted bitch.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2005 3:56:28 pm PST #7112 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"But why am I supposed to root for these people? What's heroic about crime?"

I don't need heroes to root for. I need interesting people, and they aren't always wearing the whitest of hats. It's all about, I suppose, how many flaws you're willing to accept. I don't enjoy books about unflawed people.