Shh! I kinda wanna hear me talking right now!

Glory ,'The Killer In Me'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Atropa - Feb 28, 2005 10:59:31 am PST #7086 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Neverwhere was about at the top of my "I haven't read that yet? How come?" list. Now it's even higher. Curiosity overcomes me.

Hee! Yes, you must read it.

looks at iPod

Hey! I remembered to put the audiobook of Neverwhere on here! Good, I can listen to it on the bus home tonight.


brenda m - Feb 28, 2005 11:30:32 am PST #7087 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Curse of Chalion.

Ooh, I bought that the other day, but I haven't started it yet.

I've somehow gotten into this freakish not finishing books thing. I never do that. Suddenly now I've got at least three or four books that I've started in the past month or so, read nearly all of, and then stopped. Good books, not things that are boring the crap out of me so I might deliberately not finish them. I'm trying not to start anything new until I get the madness dealt with.


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2005 2:59:10 pm PST #7088 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How much sex was there in Memoirs Of A Geisha?


Strix - Feb 28, 2005 3:16:10 pm PST #7089 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Not much. It was all pretty much "...and then they had sex."

IIRC.


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2005 3:18:04 pm PST #7090 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's what I thought.

AP described the movie thusly:

"Memoirs of a Geisha" - Rob Marshall ("Chicago") directs this adaptation of the novel about an orphan girl (Zhang Ziyi) who becomes a queen-bee madame kept in style by powerful men. Sex, sumptuous sets, exotic locales, a beautiful leading lady poised for a breakout role. Sex.

And it worried me.


Strix - Feb 28, 2005 3:26:30 pm PST #7091 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Isn't Zhang Ziyi Chinese, not Japanese?

And the sex is there, so it's not like "...and in the film, Tom and Huck make wild monkey love in Injun Joe's cave!"

It's more like the book just said "sex" and the film added the nude athletic bodies. In silk-sheeted beds. With pretty clothes beforehand.

I liked "Memoirs" pretty ok, but basically what it made me do is check out a bunch of books on geisha from the library, and from there I tangented to big fat photo anthologies of hookers in Storyville, which was even cooler, so I'm ok with it, as long as Zhang isn't a catsuited SuperGeisha Who Fights Crime.


Jessica - Feb 28, 2005 3:31:04 pm PST #7092 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

a beautiful leading lady poised for a breakout role.

I thought that was Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Or do they just mean in this country?

[eta: Or are they not talking about Zhang Ziyi? Either way, I feel I'm missing something.]


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2005 3:33:12 pm PST #7093 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And the sex is there, so it's not like "...and in the film, Tom and Huck make wild monkey love in Injun Joe's cave!"

I'd have not noted so much if they hadn't put the second "sex". Like sex is going to be the primary draw.


Strix - Feb 28, 2005 3:49:55 pm PST #7094 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Well, lots of (most?) Westerners hear geisha and think "HoTt Asian SEXX!!!" so I'm not surprised that Hollywood is juicing that part for all it's worth.

Although if they focus on sex to the exclusion of the arts and manners and such, THAT'S bullshit, because that isn't what the book focused on at all.

Which is what you're saying.

Duh. I"m really dim tonight. Mea culpa.


Connie Neil - Mar 01, 2005 9:05:54 pm PST #7095 of 10002
brillig

One of the books I got at the library book sale was "Wizard's First Rule" by Terry Goodkind. I've heard decent things about Goodkind, and I figured I'd give it a shot. Nice thick book, first of a series, something to get my teeth into, well-reviewed on the cover by people I've heard of.

Oh, gods. It certainly reads like a first novel. It reads like something aimed at a young adult audience. The writing is weirdly juvenile, which may just be the effect of it being a first novel, but he gives credit to an editor, and I'm wondering what the editor did.

This is why I so rarely try new authors. There are fanfic writers I follow whose stories have more grace and dexterity of narrative than this book.

Fortunately, I also got Umberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum." I trust Eco.