This is not funny. This... this is a morality tale about the evils of sake.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Strix - Feb 28, 2005 3:26:30 pm PST #7091 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Isn't Zhang Ziyi Chinese, not Japanese?

And the sex is there, so it's not like "...and in the film, Tom and Huck make wild monkey love in Injun Joe's cave!"

It's more like the book just said "sex" and the film added the nude athletic bodies. In silk-sheeted beds. With pretty clothes beforehand.

I liked "Memoirs" pretty ok, but basically what it made me do is check out a bunch of books on geisha from the library, and from there I tangented to big fat photo anthologies of hookers in Storyville, which was even cooler, so I'm ok with it, as long as Zhang isn't a catsuited SuperGeisha Who Fights Crime.


Jessica - Feb 28, 2005 3:31:04 pm PST #7092 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

a beautiful leading lady poised for a breakout role.

I thought that was Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Or do they just mean in this country?

[eta: Or are they not talking about Zhang Ziyi? Either way, I feel I'm missing something.]


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2005 3:33:12 pm PST #7093 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And the sex is there, so it's not like "...and in the film, Tom and Huck make wild monkey love in Injun Joe's cave!"

I'd have not noted so much if they hadn't put the second "sex". Like sex is going to be the primary draw.


Strix - Feb 28, 2005 3:49:55 pm PST #7094 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Well, lots of (most?) Westerners hear geisha and think "HoTt Asian SEXX!!!" so I'm not surprised that Hollywood is juicing that part for all it's worth.

Although if they focus on sex to the exclusion of the arts and manners and such, THAT'S bullshit, because that isn't what the book focused on at all.

Which is what you're saying.

Duh. I"m really dim tonight. Mea culpa.


Connie Neil - Mar 01, 2005 9:05:54 pm PST #7095 of 10002
brillig

One of the books I got at the library book sale was "Wizard's First Rule" by Terry Goodkind. I've heard decent things about Goodkind, and I figured I'd give it a shot. Nice thick book, first of a series, something to get my teeth into, well-reviewed on the cover by people I've heard of.

Oh, gods. It certainly reads like a first novel. It reads like something aimed at a young adult audience. The writing is weirdly juvenile, which may just be the effect of it being a first novel, but he gives credit to an editor, and I'm wondering what the editor did.

This is why I so rarely try new authors. There are fanfic writers I follow whose stories have more grace and dexterity of narrative than this book.

Fortunately, I also got Umberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum." I trust Eco.


Kathy A - Mar 03, 2005 12:53:03 pm PST #7096 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Going back a bit (I just got caught up on the past few weeks worth of posts), I think it's great that Harlequin is looking to expand the usual romance timeframes. I'd love to see a romance set in, say, Jazz Age NYC or Chicago, or Civil-War England (British Civil War, I mean).

I just noticed over at Amazon that one of my alltime favorite romance authors Loretta Chase has a new book out! Considering she's written a grand total of about four books (outside of the traditional Regencies, which are no longer in print) in 15 years, this is good news for me.

If you're a historical romance fan and you've not read Lord of Scoundrels yet, you simply must! One of the best romances I've ever read (and I've read a hell of a lot).


Susan W. - Mar 03, 2005 12:56:20 pm PST #7097 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I just put Lord of Scoundrels on hold myself, because I keep hearing so many people rave about it. For someone who writes this stuff, I was very narrowly read until recently. I had a few favorite authors, and I read their books.


Kathy A - Mar 03, 2005 1:19:11 pm PST #7098 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Other Regency-era romances that I'd recommend are the four written by Julie Garwood (starting with Lyon's Lady--too Americanized for believability, but written with that Garwood snap that I love when she's on her game), all of Loretta Chase's books (she's too quotable to miss), Mary Jo Putney's Shattered Rainbows (starting out in the Peninsular War, Susan!) and One Perfect Rose (a great look at terminal illness--sounds like a downer, but it's really well written), and especially Tom and Sharon Curtis' (aka Laura London) Windflower (actually, this one might be Revolutionary War-era, not 1812-era; I can't remember which!).

Another one set during the Revolutionary War Caribbean that I liked a lot was Passion's Ransom, by Betina Krahn (probably the only one of her books I'd recommend strongly)--very pirate-like. A funny time-travel pirate romance set in Mediterranean waters is Nancy Block's Once Upon a Pirate (which might be the only book she's ever published).


brenda m - Mar 03, 2005 1:31:28 pm PST #7099 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. The product description on that book would have me running away very fast (please tell me that's not the actual jacket description) but I'll put it on my list on your recommendations.


Kathy A - Mar 03, 2005 1:59:31 pm PST #7100 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

It's a much better book than that blurb implies, brenda! Read a few of the reviews--they're more accurate. It definitely is not your standard romance, especially in the characterization of the two leads. He's a hardhearted cad who has major issues resulting from his childhood that obscure his feelings for her, and she has no clue why he's being so stupid in his treatment of her. There are no Big Misunderstandings like you normally see in these books, which is a welcome relief.

Also, the female lead's brother, Bertie, is a wonderfully drawn character, bumbling and dim-witted but very sweethearted. He gets his own romance in the b-plotline of the sequel, The Last Hellion.