I'm leaning toward the "Who's your (sugar)daddy?" interpretation, myself, though I am aware of the leatherman definitions.
Mal: You want to tell me how come there's a statue of you here looking at me like I owe him something? Jayne: Wishing I could, Captain.
'Jaynestown'
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Connie Neil - Jan 04, 2005 2:26:09 pm PST #6804 of 10002
brillig
DavidS - Jan 04, 2005 2:29:26 pm PST #6805 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
But I'd think the usage would be older (older than those aspects of gay whatsis being common currency, I mean). Lots of old blues songs use "daddy" in the sense of lover.
Undoubtedly. But I think the current usage - and that particular phrase - is all leatherman. I can't even think of that phrase without a Tom of Finland scene in my head.
brenda m - Jan 04, 2005 2:31:05 pm PST #6806 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Huh. It sounds totally different in my head.
P.M. Marc - Jan 04, 2005 2:31:38 pm PST #6807 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
But I think the current usage - and that particular phrase - is all leatherman.
No cites, but I think your data is skewed based on your location, you SF freak. I've heard it used a lot with no leather or men implied.
Connie Neil - Jan 04, 2005 2:41:00 pm PST #6808 of 10002
brillig
But I think the current usage - and that particular phrase - is all leatherman
Some of the people I've heard use it have never *heard* of leathermen, I'd bet.
Consuela - Jan 04, 2005 2:47:43 pm PST #6809 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
And here I keep thinking about D'Argo.
I'm so out of the loop.
meara - Jan 04, 2005 2:47:56 pm PST #6810 of 10002
I think the next line of the song is, "Is he rich like me?" so I figured the singer was trying to figure out if the object of his attention would be impressed by him or not. (Me = not, by the way)
Yeah, that's always what I assumed, not that he was asking it in a during-sex-kinda-"yeah baby who's your daddy say my name bitch" kinda way...
I have no idea if drag kings say "who's your daddy?".
Well, some of them are into leather type daddy/boi relationships, so yeah, I'd imagine they do. :)
And I would find "sucks" more offensive than "bites", really.
Katie M - Jan 04, 2005 2:54:11 pm PST #6811 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
And here I keep thinking about D'Argo.
Hey, he wears leather, doesn't he?
Also, I'd never even considered hearing "bites" as offensive. I'm not personally offended by "sucks" either, but I could imagine someone else being bothered by it. Bites, though? Really? Huh.
DavidS - Jan 04, 2005 2:55:47 pm PST #6812 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
No cites, but I think your data is skewed based on your location, you SF freak.
Could be.
I've heard it used a lot with no leather or men implied.
Because the phrase has burrowed up from the subculture and is widely kicked around with etymological ignorance of its origin. I think. It could have a pimp-source too. I can imagine that. But the phrase has a skeezy undertow to it that carries an element of sexual and personal dominance in it.
erikaj - Jan 04, 2005 2:56:57 pm PST #6813 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!
I guess I'm immune now. I don't think of either one as vulgar in the least...not that I think Queen Elizabeth uses either mind you.