Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


brenda m - Jan 04, 2005 2:31:05 pm PST #6806 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Huh. It sounds totally different in my head.


P.M. Marc - Jan 04, 2005 2:31:38 pm PST #6807 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

But I think the current usage - and that particular phrase - is all leatherman.

No cites, but I think your data is skewed based on your location, you SF freak. I've heard it used a lot with no leather or men implied.


Connie Neil - Jan 04, 2005 2:41:00 pm PST #6808 of 10002
brillig

But I think the current usage - and that particular phrase - is all leatherman

Some of the people I've heard use it have never *heard* of leathermen, I'd bet.


Consuela - Jan 04, 2005 2:47:43 pm PST #6809 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

And here I keep thinking about D'Argo.

I'm so out of the loop.


meara - Jan 04, 2005 2:47:56 pm PST #6810 of 10002

I think the next line of the song is, "Is he rich like me?" so I figured the singer was trying to figure out if the object of his attention would be impressed by him or not. (Me = not, by the way)

Yeah, that's always what I assumed, not that he was asking it in a during-sex-kinda-"yeah baby who's your daddy say my name bitch" kinda way...

I have no idea if drag kings say "who's your daddy?".

Well, some of them are into leather type daddy/boi relationships, so yeah, I'd imagine they do. :)

And I would find "sucks" more offensive than "bites", really.


Katie M - Jan 04, 2005 2:54:11 pm PST #6811 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

And here I keep thinking about D'Argo.

Hey, he wears leather, doesn't he?

Also, I'd never even considered hearing "bites" as offensive. I'm not personally offended by "sucks" either, but I could imagine someone else being bothered by it. Bites, though? Really? Huh.


DavidS - Jan 04, 2005 2:55:47 pm PST #6812 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

No cites, but I think your data is skewed based on your location, you SF freak.

Could be.

I've heard it used a lot with no leather or men implied.

Because the phrase has burrowed up from the subculture and is widely kicked around with etymological ignorance of its origin. I think. It could have a pimp-source too. I can imagine that. But the phrase has a skeezy undertow to it that carries an element of sexual and personal dominance in it.


erikaj - Jan 04, 2005 2:56:57 pm PST #6813 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I guess I'm immune now. I don't think of either one as vulgar in the least...not that I think Queen Elizabeth uses either mind you.


Connie Neil - Jan 04, 2005 2:59:05 pm PST #6814 of 10002
brillig

Because the phrase has burrowed up from the subculture

the phrase has a skeezy undertow to it that carries an element of sexual and personal dominance in it.

Honestly, I think the vast majority of people think it has to do with "sugar daddy" and are utterly oblivious to any influence of sexual dominance of the more direct sort. It's a power and an "I'm da man" thing, as in the guy cackling "Who's your daddy?" as he scoops up the poker pot.


erikaj - Jan 04, 2005 3:04:27 pm PST #6815 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

That is how they use it on TV.