Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!

Xander ,'Chosen'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


erikaj - Dec 03, 2004 12:14:53 pm PST #6523 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I didn't skim Antarctica both because I didn't know about it ahead of time, and well, you know I read crime a lot, right? He would have had had to *entertain* himself with one of the corpses to squick me. Or cut it up, Lehane-style.(Dennis Lehane isn't happy unless he's dismembering some poor bastard...it's a thing.)Hey, is anybody in here a Pelecanos fan? Because, you know, he writes for "The Wire" now and I liked "King Suckerman" and one I just finished called "Hell to Pay" and a friend read that in my lj and said "Where should I start?" and I had to say "I don't know." so I figured somebody in Lit Buff might, because I think somebody mentioned him once.


meara - Dec 04, 2004 6:58:47 pm PST #6524 of 10002

Heh. I just saw "Day After Tomorrow" during Thanksgiving break, and was most horrified by the destruction of the library and the burning of the books (though I figured there'd surely be lots of duplicates to burn).


Jesse - Dec 05, 2004 4:54:56 am PST #6525 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I looove Pelecanos. If you want to read about the Greeks chronologically, you'd have to start with The Big Blowdown, which takes place in the 40s and 50s. But I vote, just read them as you find them.


erikaj - Dec 05, 2004 8:34:37 am PST #6526 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

His PI ones are good, too. And he's not as depressed or invested in the "when you have to kill every motherfucker in the room," as Dennis Lehane. I love a tormented hero, you know I do, but yikes. It's weird to know how many parts a human body can make.


meara - Dec 05, 2004 7:41:42 pm PST #6527 of 10002

Excellently, I just yesterday caught up on a hell of a lot of posts in this thread, and made some notes while I was doing it, so went to the used bookstore today and picked up "Shards of Honor" (which I know I've read, but not in the last ten years), "Ill Wind", and "The Rift", along with a couple other things.


brenda m - Dec 06, 2004 6:09:27 am PST #6528 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm sure this has come up umpteen times before, but...

I just reread the first of the Vorkosigan books last week (the two-in-one dealing with Cordelia and Aral) and I'm wanting to jump into the Miles saga, but I'm confused as where to start. Should I follow the listed order in the front of the book? It seems, from a few of the trade paperback compilations, that another order might be better? This is looking even more complicated than Firefly.

ION, today's Get Fuzzy made me chuckle: [link]


meara - Dec 06, 2004 6:20:43 pm PST #6529 of 10002

Ooh yeah, let me know too, on that--I just re-read "Shards of Honor", but am not sure where to go from there, after the other Cordelia one.


Consuela - Dec 06, 2004 6:29:59 pm PST #6530 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Bwah. From Shards of Honor, read Barrayar. After that, the sequence should be:

The Warrior's Apprentice
The Vor Game
Borders of Infinity
Cetaganda
Brothers in Arms
Mirror Dance
Memory
Komarr
A Civil Campaign
Diplomatic Immunity

Borders of Infinity is a short-story collection, which covers a time range between Warrior's Apprentice and Brothers in Arms. Ethan of Athos also follows The Vor Game but has no real relation to the rest of the series, and Miles doesn't even appear.

Under no circumstances should you read the sequence of novels that starts with Brothers in Arms out of order. There is a fairly large amount of HSQ that would be ruined if you were to do that.


Jessica - Dec 06, 2004 6:37:56 pm PST #6531 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Under no circumstances should you read the sequence of novels that starts with Brothers in Arms out of order.

This this this this this.

The early ones can be tricky to find on their own because they've been republished in a few different compilation volumes. Warrior's Apprentice and The Vor Game are in Young Miles, Cetaganda and Ethan of Athos are in Miles, Mystery and Mayhem, and Borders of Infinity, Brothers in Arms, and Mirror Dance are in Miles Errant. And I think there are a few extra short stories thrown into the comp books, too.


Ginger - Dec 06, 2004 6:46:13 pm PST #6532 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

"Mountains of Mourning" in Borders of Infinity goes right after The Warrior's Apprentice. The Warrior's Apprentice, "Mountains of Mourning," and The Vor Game were put together into Young Miles. "Labyrinth" in Borders of Infinity and the framing device for the stories is set after Cetaganda. I think Ethan of Athos is really set after Cetaganda. Elli Quinn, who's a character in a number of the Miles books, is in Ethan of Athos, but it doesn't otherwise relate to the action in the series.

(edited because the italics were winning)