Gwen: Demon, OK? The whole nine—cloven feet and horns and teeth. He wasn't wearing lamé though. Lorne: Yeah, the evil ones can't pull it off. It gets camp.

'Harm's Way'


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Consuela - Dec 06, 2004 6:29:59 pm PST #6530 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Bwah. From Shards of Honor, read Barrayar. After that, the sequence should be:

The Warrior's Apprentice
The Vor Game
Borders of Infinity
Cetaganda
Brothers in Arms
Mirror Dance
Memory
Komarr
A Civil Campaign
Diplomatic Immunity

Borders of Infinity is a short-story collection, which covers a time range between Warrior's Apprentice and Brothers in Arms. Ethan of Athos also follows The Vor Game but has no real relation to the rest of the series, and Miles doesn't even appear.

Under no circumstances should you read the sequence of novels that starts with Brothers in Arms out of order. There is a fairly large amount of HSQ that would be ruined if you were to do that.


Jessica - Dec 06, 2004 6:37:56 pm PST #6531 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Under no circumstances should you read the sequence of novels that starts with Brothers in Arms out of order.

This this this this this.

The early ones can be tricky to find on their own because they've been republished in a few different compilation volumes. Warrior's Apprentice and The Vor Game are in Young Miles, Cetaganda and Ethan of Athos are in Miles, Mystery and Mayhem, and Borders of Infinity, Brothers in Arms, and Mirror Dance are in Miles Errant. And I think there are a few extra short stories thrown into the comp books, too.


Ginger - Dec 06, 2004 6:46:13 pm PST #6532 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

"Mountains of Mourning" in Borders of Infinity goes right after The Warrior's Apprentice. The Warrior's Apprentice, "Mountains of Mourning," and The Vor Game were put together into Young Miles. "Labyrinth" in Borders of Infinity and the framing device for the stories is set after Cetaganda. I think Ethan of Athos is really set after Cetaganda. Elli Quinn, who's a character in a number of the Miles books, is in Ethan of Athos, but it doesn't otherwise relate to the action in the series.

(edited because the italics were winning)


meara - Dec 06, 2004 6:48:24 pm PST #6533 of 10002

Excellent, thank you. Will start looking for those after I finish what I've got! Of course, some of the HSQ may be ruined already...sort of. I know I read SOME of the books about ten or twelve years ago. I know Shards of Honor and Barrayar were two of them, but what else I read? I have no idea. So we'll see if anything seems weirdly familiar. :)


Vonnie K - Dec 06, 2004 7:05:10 pm PST #6534 of 10002
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Having just bought ALL the books, I'll say this: Several of the books individually are out of print, specifically, "Warrior's Apprentice", "Vor Game" and "Mirror Dance". I got WA and VG relatively cheaply from used book vendors online, but it'd have been cheaper just to buy "Young Miles". Also, "Mirror Dance" alone is deuced hard to find at a reasonable price (even through Bookfinder.com, where all available copies were $15+), so get "Miles Errant" instead. I actually had bought "Borders of Infinity" and "Brothers in Arms" *separately* before I realized this, so now I have two copies of those two books....

I'm starting to find the joys of this being a big, sprawling series. Haven't read "Ethan of Athos" yet, but when I got the book in mail, I did a Snoopy Dance when I realized that one of the main characters in that book was someone I already met (briefly) in "Warrior's Apprentice".

On a related note: That fantasy casting game thing? Ever since Shaye mentioned Hilary Swank as Bel, I have been unable to picture anyone else in the role. It's kind of disturbing, because everyone else's face remains blurry and amorphous, but there would Bel be, with that wide mouth and angular jaw and short brown hair, sharp as you please.


Ginger - Dec 07, 2004 4:21:56 am PST #6535 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

According to the BBC [link] a secret staircase matching the one described by Bronte has just been found in a house that was believed to have been part of the inspiration for Jane Eyre. Now if they find the bones of a demented relative ...


Volans - Dec 08, 2004 4:23:14 am PST #6536 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Oh, that is cool.

I'm reading The Compass Rose, which is a collection of Ursula K. LeGuin's short stories, and it's depressing the hell out of me. It was published about 30 years ago, and while the stories are speculative fiction they are clearly about the socio-political climate then. If I'd read it, oh, 6 years ago, I wouldn't be depressed. I'd be smug. I'd be thinking, "I am so glad we got past all that bullshit!"

But now? Now I'm depressed.


Anne W. - Dec 08, 2004 4:43:20 am PST #6537 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

x-posty w/ Natter

Does anyone know of a Netflix-like service for audiobooks?


Jesse - Dec 08, 2004 5:04:55 am PST #6538 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I know my grandmother gets to borrow them for free from (I'm pretty sure) Perkins School for the Blind, but she's actually going blind. Not sure if it's available to the general public.


Jessica - Dec 08, 2004 5:33:39 am PST #6539 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Does anyone know of a Netflix-like service for audiobooks?

Anne, my dad's been using Recorded Books for years. Their readers are excellent.