You're thinking blue-state again, Heather.
Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?
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Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 7:56:07 am PST #6254 of 10002
If I only had a brain...
Jesse - Nov 05, 2004 7:57:58 am PST #6255 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Wasn't that part of Obama's speech? "We coach Little League in the blue states, and love crossdressing in the red states...."
Topic!Cindy - Nov 05, 2004 7:59:53 am PST #6256 of 10002
What is even happening?
Nobody remembers the purple states.
Daisy Jane - Nov 05, 2004 8:05:07 am PST #6257 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
You're thinking blue-state again, Heather.
It's because I live in a nearly blue county. I blame Oak Lawn.
Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 8:05:59 am PST #6258 of 10002
If I only had a brain...
You know, geographically speaking, it's really tricky for all the cities to secede and form a new country.
Katie M - Nov 05, 2004 8:08:50 am PST #6259 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
You know, geographically speaking, it's really tricky for all the cities to secede and form a new country.
Viva Berlin!
Calli - Nov 05, 2004 8:15:54 am PST #6260 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
I wonder if most people don't have a little cross-dressing or attraction to it in them.
Yeah, I've been thinking about this. When does wearing trousers, an Oxford shirt, and loafers become cross-dressing for women? When she adds a fedora? A mustache? And women have much more room to play with gender-identified clothing -- I'm thinking of M. Dietrich in the tux, Annie Hall, etc. The 80s glam thing (and some of the Goth styles) gave a bit of room for men to play, with the feather boas, ruffled shirts, eye-liner and so on. But I think women can go further.
At what point does it really become cross-dressing? I don't consider a guy in a kilt to be cross-dressing, probably because of all the cultural baggage. Does there have to be makeup? An actual attempt to pass as the opposite gender? I'm sitting here in khaki jeans, a t-shirt, and a corduroy shirt over it, with unisex-birkies on my feet. What saves this from being cross-dressing? The fact that women in this culture brought jeans into our wardrobe in the 60s? The fact that the t-shirt is bright pink or the way my breasts stick out under it?
§ ita § - Nov 05, 2004 8:17:50 am PST #6261 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't consider a guy in a kilt to be cross-dressing, probably because of all the cultural baggage.
I don't know if it's cultural baggage, or just that kilts are men's clothes.
Calli - Nov 05, 2004 8:20:58 am PST #6262 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
kilts are men's clothes.
That's sort of what I meant by cultural baggage. Since men's clothes and women's clothes are defined by the culture and so on.
Daisy Jane - Nov 05, 2004 8:22:03 am PST #6263 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
You know, geographically speaking, it's really tricky for all the cities to secede and form a new country.
Some southern ones wanted to during the Civil War. Off the top of my head Winnfield in La. They might have if the Confederacy had actually meant all that crap about states rights and self-determination.
At what point does it really become cross-dressing? I don't consider a guy in a kilt to be cross-dressing, probably because of all the cultural baggage. Does there have to be makeup? An actual attempt to pass as the opposite gender? I'm sitting here in khaki jeans, a t-shirt, and a corduroy shirt over it, with unisex-birkies on my feet. What saves this from being cross-dressing? The fact that women in this culture brought jeans into our wardrobe in the 60s? The fact that the t-shirt is bright pink or the way my breasts stick out under it?
Just throwing something out there- but maybe when it's the fact that the thing is masculine or feminine itself that is the turn on for the wearer or the oogler. Kilt=masculine!=cross dressing Tux=masculine=cross dressing.