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§ ita § - Nov 05, 2004 7:19:29 am PST #6252 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

meara reads this thread, right? I'm sure she'll be a fount of information.


Daisy Jane - Nov 05, 2004 7:24:11 am PST #6253 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I wonder if most people don't have a little cross-dressing or attraction to it in them. I'm thinking of men who like women in their shirts, women who like men in frilly pirate shirts and/or eyeliner. Women who love a sexy pantsuit and a fedora.


Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 7:56:07 am PST #6254 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

You're thinking blue-state again, Heather.


Jesse - Nov 05, 2004 7:57:58 am PST #6255 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Wasn't that part of Obama's speech? "We coach Little League in the blue states, and love crossdressing in the red states...."


Topic!Cindy - Nov 05, 2004 7:59:53 am PST #6256 of 10002
What is even happening?

Nobody remembers the purple states.


Daisy Jane - Nov 05, 2004 8:05:07 am PST #6257 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

You're thinking blue-state again, Heather.

It's because I live in a nearly blue county. I blame Oak Lawn.


Betsy HP - Nov 05, 2004 8:05:59 am PST #6258 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

You know, geographically speaking, it's really tricky for all the cities to secede and form a new country.


Katie M - Nov 05, 2004 8:08:50 am PST #6259 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

You know, geographically speaking, it's really tricky for all the cities to secede and form a new country.

Viva Berlin!


Calli - Nov 05, 2004 8:15:54 am PST #6260 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I wonder if most people don't have a little cross-dressing or attraction to it in them.

Yeah, I've been thinking about this. When does wearing trousers, an Oxford shirt, and loafers become cross-dressing for women? When she adds a fedora? A mustache? And women have much more room to play with gender-identified clothing -- I'm thinking of M. Dietrich in the tux, Annie Hall, etc. The 80s glam thing (and some of the Goth styles) gave a bit of room for men to play, with the feather boas, ruffled shirts, eye-liner and so on. But I think women can go further.

At what point does it really become cross-dressing? I don't consider a guy in a kilt to be cross-dressing, probably because of all the cultural baggage. Does there have to be makeup? An actual attempt to pass as the opposite gender? I'm sitting here in khaki jeans, a t-shirt, and a corduroy shirt over it, with unisex-birkies on my feet. What saves this from being cross-dressing? The fact that women in this culture brought jeans into our wardrobe in the 60s? The fact that the t-shirt is bright pink or the way my breasts stick out under it?


§ ita § - Nov 05, 2004 8:17:50 am PST #6261 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't consider a guy in a kilt to be cross-dressing, probably because of all the cultural baggage.

I don't know if it's cultural baggage, or just that kilts are men's clothes.