Wesley: I stabbed you. I should apologize for that. But I'm honestly not sure how. I think it'll just be awkward. Gunn: Good call. Wesley: Okay.

'Time Bomb'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Betsy HP - Oct 14, 2004 9:17:44 am PDT #6200 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Are we discussing Fafhrd's preference for barely pubescent girls? Because I found that very disturbing.


Strega - Oct 14, 2004 11:42:33 am PDT #6201 of 10002

Fafhrd? Hm. Somewhere along the line I was disturbed by one of Mouser's escapades, but I think I reread the story and couldn't find anything that hinted at her age. So then I decided that while the word "girl" made me imagine a twelve year old, it wasn't intended that way.

I could just be willfully ignoring things that would disgust me, though.


Strix - Oct 14, 2004 5:22:05 pm PDT #6202 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I just read Incubus Dreams last night, and I just want to slapslapSLAP whoever edits/proofreads LKH. Or, rather, who doesn't. Damn, so many fucking mistakes, and they misspel deity throughout the WHOLE DAMNED BOOK.

LKH writes fun, hot sex -- I'll give her that -- but I am so frustrated that there is no plot anymore. It seems like there is, at the beginning but it goes away. At the end of ID, don't you think that all of the plot was just forgotten, so that LKH culd get to the hot poly sex? Which is fun, sure, but that was th bulk of the book. And then at the end -- like the last three pages -- there's this shitty kind of "oh, yeah, that plot thing" epilogue that basically says to me "I forgot to write a BOOK this time, and maybe I'll get to actual plot in the next book. Maybe."

And since she really hasn't had a plot since Obsidian Butterfly, I'm not holding my fucking breath.

GRRRRR.


Margaret T. - Oct 14, 2004 8:16:08 pm PDT #6203 of 10002
Dedicated lurker

I read and enjoyed all the Anita Blake books up to and including Obsidian Butterfly. I decided to stop there mostly because of what Buffistas have said about the later books. Thank you, Buffistas!

I found myself writing in my copy of OB to correct the many typos. Someone really should do this prior to publication, but maybe that's just the proofreader in me talking.

And one Merry Gentry book forever cured me of my desire to read any more LKH. She really has the plot/sex ratio reversed.


Volans - Oct 15, 2004 12:07:54 am PDT #6204 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Except for Big Blue, the dudes of DC are pretty damned flawed and often wrong.

You're right. I was thinking of Supes and contrasting him with the Stan Lee heroes who are all about the questioning. But yeah, other than Superman, the DC heroes are often more complex and interesting than your standard Mary Sue.

Are we discussing Fafhrd's preference for barely pubescent girls?

Not specifically, but that's definitely in there, to the point where the Mouser says he himself is disturbed by it.

I was actually wondering if it's my perception, or if it's a real phenomenon that the explicit sexual component of fantasy genre books sort of peaked in the early 80s and has been disappearing, or moving into sub-categories of the genre. I can't say for sure, because I haven't really read much fantasy that's been written in the last, oh, 10 years, but it seemed to me like the later Fafhrd/Mouser stuff was more explicit than you'd get with anything in the sword-and-sorcery line today. If there is even any s-and-s written today. The last of that I actually read was Melanie Rawn's series. More and more it seems that fantasy has been subdivided into sub-categories like the Anita Blake stuff, and that's where you get the porn.

Also, more female authors.


Allyson - Oct 15, 2004 10:47:32 am PDT #6205 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Spammy McSpammerson here.

Hey all. We have a misterpoll set up to gauge how many people are interested in attending Target Tampa with Suzanne Brockmann to celebrate the release of her new book.

Weekend with Suzanne Brockmann Poll

There will be signings of her new book, and your library, as well a party and some writing workshops.

We also have a mailing list if you'd like updates on this event.

target-tampa-announce-subscribe@lists.emahollywood.com


Betsy HP - Oct 15, 2004 10:50:42 am PDT #6206 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Allyson, shall I forward that to my lists?


Allyson - Oct 15, 2004 11:33:44 am PDT #6207 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

If it's no bother, it'd be much appreciated!


Betsy HP - Oct 15, 2004 11:44:34 am PDT #6208 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Could you explain what Target Tampa is?


Allyson - Oct 15, 2004 12:48:04 pm PDT #6209 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'll put together a neat little write-up of it, I just want to make sure Maya approves, now that I think of it.

There will be two other writers there for signing and workshoppy events, but I want to make sure it's totally okay before releasing their names.

Me = stoopid