Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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Volans - Oct 15, 2004 12:07:54 am PDT #6204 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Except for Big Blue, the dudes of DC are pretty damned flawed and often wrong.

You're right. I was thinking of Supes and contrasting him with the Stan Lee heroes who are all about the questioning. But yeah, other than Superman, the DC heroes are often more complex and interesting than your standard Mary Sue.

Are we discussing Fafhrd's preference for barely pubescent girls?

Not specifically, but that's definitely in there, to the point where the Mouser says he himself is disturbed by it.

I was actually wondering if it's my perception, or if it's a real phenomenon that the explicit sexual component of fantasy genre books sort of peaked in the early 80s and has been disappearing, or moving into sub-categories of the genre. I can't say for sure, because I haven't really read much fantasy that's been written in the last, oh, 10 years, but it seemed to me like the later Fafhrd/Mouser stuff was more explicit than you'd get with anything in the sword-and-sorcery line today. If there is even any s-and-s written today. The last of that I actually read was Melanie Rawn's series. More and more it seems that fantasy has been subdivided into sub-categories like the Anita Blake stuff, and that's where you get the porn.

Also, more female authors.


Allyson - Oct 15, 2004 10:47:32 am PDT #6205 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Spammy McSpammerson here.

Hey all. We have a misterpoll set up to gauge how many people are interested in attending Target Tampa with Suzanne Brockmann to celebrate the release of her new book.

Weekend with Suzanne Brockmann Poll

There will be signings of her new book, and your library, as well a party and some writing workshops.

We also have a mailing list if you'd like updates on this event.

target-tampa-announce-subscribe@lists.emahollywood.com


Betsy HP - Oct 15, 2004 10:50:42 am PDT #6206 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Allyson, shall I forward that to my lists?


Allyson - Oct 15, 2004 11:33:44 am PDT #6207 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

If it's no bother, it'd be much appreciated!


Betsy HP - Oct 15, 2004 11:44:34 am PDT #6208 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Could you explain what Target Tampa is?


Allyson - Oct 15, 2004 12:48:04 pm PDT #6209 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'll put together a neat little write-up of it, I just want to make sure Maya approves, now that I think of it.

There will be two other writers there for signing and workshoppy events, but I want to make sure it's totally okay before releasing their names.

Me = stoopid


Topic!Cindy - Oct 15, 2004 12:48:37 pm PDT #6210 of 10002
What is even happening?

Is it the Target store, in Tampa, Florida?


Allyson - Oct 15, 2004 12:49:07 pm PDT #6211 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The book is called Hot Target.


Lyra Jane - Oct 18, 2004 11:27:00 am PDT #6212 of 10002
Up with the sun

Hey, has anyboody else read Vamped, by David Sosnowski? I did, and liked it a lot. It's about a world where vampires are the majority and humans have been hunted almost to extinction, where a 100-year-old vampire finds himself the guardian of a 6-year-old-girl named Isuzu. It's a great premise and the writer has a good time exploriing it, writing about things like vamp vacations to Alaska and eBay-only trade in human junk food.

My only criticism was that the plot feels quite rushed in places, and I would have liked to see more from the girl's viewpoint. But it's a darn good fluffy, funny vampire read=.


Tom Scola - Oct 20, 2004 7:36:39 am PDT #6213 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I don't usually read or post here in Literary, but I just wanted to point out this interview at Slashdot with Neal Stephenson. (As you might expect, it's rather long-winded.)