...because God knows you need some satisfaction in life besides shagging Captain Cardboard! And I never really liked you anyway. And you have stupid hair!

Spike ,'Selfless'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Polter-Cow - Oct 13, 2004 5:38:17 am PDT #6176 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Who doesn't?


Steph L. - Oct 13, 2004 5:38:49 am PDT #6177 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So LKH yearns for orgies.

With her pets, apparently.


Polter-Cow - Oct 13, 2004 5:41:47 am PDT #6178 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Who doe--okay, that one not so much.


juliana - Oct 13, 2004 5:45:16 am PDT #6179 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

So LKH yearns for orgies.

With her pets, apparently.

Not. Enough. Brain. Bleach.

Whyfor must you be so evil so early???


Connie Neil - Oct 13, 2004 5:55:16 am PDT #6180 of 10002
brillig

Whyfor must you be so evil so early???

It's a gift.


Calli - Oct 13, 2004 6:04:54 am PDT #6181 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Anita is flawed enough that I don't really read her as a Mary Sue. There are some symptoms -- everyone wants her, including many of the bad guys, and then there's the whole power-of-the-month club membership -- but she doesn't have quite the sense that lint never clings to her black trousers that I pick up from characters that I think of as Mary Sues.

By the way, I explained the idea of "Mary Sue" at my local bookgroup, after saying, "At least she's not some damn Mary Sue" about a book's protagonist. The phrasing came as a surprise to one of the members, whose name is, in fact, Mary Sue. She occasionally tells me that she's still waiting for the psychic communication with her cats to kick in.


Betsy HP - Oct 13, 2004 6:31:11 am PDT #6182 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Anita is flawed enough that I don't really read her as a Mary Sue.

Early Anita is flawed. What's wrong with late Anita?


Connie Neil - Oct 13, 2004 6:35:54 am PDT #6183 of 10002
brillig

What's wrong with late Anita?

Too many men want to sleep with her--whups, "date" her, and she has to save the world, I think.


Betsy HP - Oct 13, 2004 6:48:36 am PDT #6184 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

she has to save the world,

That's a flaw?


Calli - Oct 13, 2004 6:55:43 am PDT #6185 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I haven't read Incubus Dreams yet, but I remember Anita getting called on agonizing over her own stuff in Blue Moon when there were people who needed saving. Something along the lines of: You're not upset over being a monster. You're upset because you're acting like a monster and you don't feel appropriately guilty about it. Get a grip and save the person in distress already.

And in Narcissus in Chains she a) came damn close to eating Jason (in the non-fun, carnivorous sense) and b) tried to cover it by saying that hey, he saw everyone as food, too. Which he has never seemed to do, in spite of being a werewolf.

Basically, she's had trouble owning her own shit, while still being judgemental about that of others. Maybe this has changed in ID -- I hope so.