Saffron: I'll die. Mal: Well, as a courtesy, you might start getting busy on that, 'cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

'Trash'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Nutty - Sep 15, 2004 9:45:06 am PDT #5848 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Ellen Kushner's first novel is extremely fanficcy in style, but in an original universe. I want to say there is at least one other Trek novel/series with the bumpy foreheads filed off, but I can't think of it.


Consuela - Sep 15, 2004 9:50:49 am PDT #5849 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Ellen Kushner's first novel

Swordspoint? Yeah, I call it a slash fairy tale.


Kate P. - Sep 15, 2004 10:01:08 am PDT #5850 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Is Swordspoint good, or is it fanficcy in a derogatory way?


Connie Neil - Sep 15, 2004 10:02:06 am PDT #5851 of 10002
brillig

Mmm, Swordspoint. I didn't like the sequel so much. Too much magic, not enough interaction of people. I loved Swordspoint because it was a fantasy without any of the fantasy elements. Except for it being a different world, where anyone can love whoever they want, it could have been an historical novel.


Nutty - Sep 15, 2004 10:03:34 am PDT #5852 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I mean fanficcy in a purely descriptive way. When I read it, I felt like I was reading fanfic, except it was in a universe I'd never heard of.

...I suppose that could be taken derogatorily, but I don't especially mean it that way. I have some issues with the book, but not specifically related to its feeling like fanfic.


Consuela - Sep 15, 2004 10:06:00 am PDT #5853 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Swordspoint is marvelously-well written, but there is a certain element of... oh, I suppose, elevation of the characters-as-characters that you won't find in most fiction. Maybe a little indulgent.

Which is not to say it's not good, it's very good. But I didn't love Richard and wassname enough, and I really did have issues with the sequel.


Kate P. - Sep 15, 2004 10:08:25 am PDT #5854 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Hmm. Nutty, I think I know what you mean, although I don't think I could describe that style very well. Anyway, sounds interesting; I'll look it up at the library.


sumi - Sep 15, 2004 10:09:59 am PDT #5855 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I enjoy Swordspoint.


Connie Neil - Sep 15, 2004 10:11:04 am PDT #5856 of 10002
brillig

It is a somewhat odd book. There is a fairly intricate plot, but the plot is almost completely driven by what the characters think about each other.

I must confess, I skimmed through the sequel so I could find mention of the characters from Swordspoint. There are some very lovely vignettes about them.


Betsy HP - Sep 15, 2004 10:30:40 am PDT #5857 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

You read Swordspoint for the people and the milieu. It's like reading Wilde or the early Lord Peter Wimsey novels: it's the trip that matters, not the destination.

For really excellent plotting in a fantasy thriller, I highly recommend Rachel Caine's Weather Warden series. First book is Ill Wind, second is Heat Stroke. Damn, but she can hook you; by ten pages in I had to find out what happened next. At the ending of the first book, I couldn't see how she could possibly write a sequel having fallen into (I thought) an LKH trap. ( The heroine winds up with superpowers. ) Boy, was I wrong; the second book has more at stake than the first.

The basic conceit is that there's yet another secret society of wizards, and they're working full-time to keep natural disasters from killing us. The heroine is a weather wizard.

And the reason I'm mentioning these in this context is that the author is really Roxanne Longstreet Conrad, of fanfic fame.