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There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."

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Nutty - Sep 15, 2004 8:40:29 am PDT #5838 of 10002

"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I guess you're right that it's obvious. But it felt like a surface treatment somehow. This feeling became stronger when I went back and read Shards of Honor, which inflected the whole theme of rape with the vaguely soapy, wholly unrealistic treatment of Cordelia.

I don't know. What with what she does to Mark, and Miles for that matter, it seems like Bujold is willing to Go There on violence issues, but isn't willing on sex issues. Or -- considering how it all shakes out for Mark, maybe she's just not willing to Go There on sex issues where women are concerned.

Betsy HP - Sep 15, 2004 8:42:42 am PDT #5839 of 10002

If I only had a brain...

Huh. Cordelia is my favorite character.

Consuela - Sep 15, 2004 8:42:43 am PDT #5840 of 10002

We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

it seems like Bujold is willing to Go There on violence issues, but isn't willing on sex issues.

Well, that's possible.

Please note I'm not arguing that Bujold does a great job with the the romances. I've never found them all that compelling, and Ekaterin gives me the yawns. I like the stories for other reasons than the romance elements, which are generally meh.

That said, Ivan so needs a galactic girlfriend who will kick his ass.

Jesse - Sep 15, 2004 8:45:32 am PDT #5841 of 10002

Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You people are killing me! I'm only just making my way through Bujold for the first time (thanks to erinaceous), and I don't know half of what you're talking about! (Not that I don't want you to keep talking, it's just like seeing a preview for the new TV season over the summer, when you want it NOW.)

Nutty - Sep 15, 2004 8:58:03 am PDT #5842 of 10002

"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I find Cordelia a bit much, I guess. In Shards of Honor, okay that whole book felt like disguised fanfic to me; and in most of the rest of the books she is sort of a character type, rather than a character. You know, a sarcastic snort and a swoosh of skirts.

In Barrayar, she seemed like a real person.

Katie M - Sep 15, 2004 9:00:16 am PDT #5843 of 10002

I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Why is my brain suddenly popping up the idea that one of the early Barrayar books is fanfic with the serial numbers filed off? Am I making that up, or did I read that somewhere?

Consuela - Sep 15, 2004 9:01:32 am PDT #5844 of 10002

We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

You are not making it up, Katie.

Shards of Honor started out as Trekfic, by all accounts.

Katie M - Sep 15, 2004 9:01:59 am PDT #5845 of 10002

I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Ha! Go me.

DavidS - Sep 15, 2004 9:38:53 am PDT #5846 of 10002

"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Shards of Honor started out as Trekfic, by all accounts.

Interesting. Are there other examples of this phenomenon?

Consuela - Sep 15, 2004 9:42:47 am PDT #5847 of 10002

We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm sure, David, although I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Well, except for the pal who's rewriting her epic XF novel as a mainstream thriller, and the stalled space opera on my hard drive whose genesis was a Farscape story.

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