Xander: Just once I'd like to run into a cult of bunny worshippers. Anya: Great. Thank you very much for those nightmares.

'Sleeper'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


erikaj - Sep 09, 2004 2:17:52 pm PDT #5771 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Somehow, that is monumentally gratifying , Hecubus. Seriously, am I missing something not being acquainted with it? Besides being a hippie cliche, that is?


Hil R. - Sep 09, 2004 2:23:13 pm PDT #5772 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

But why did I never notice how strongly Bernard is coded as Jewish? (Although there are, of course, no Jews in Ford's world.)

Huh. I never noticed that, either. (Of course, last time I read that, I was 16. I might want to take a look at it again.)

I've been meaning to reread Walden, too. Last weekend, I went to Walden Pond with my family, and I was startled at how little of the book I could remember.


Wolfram - Sep 09, 2004 2:29:37 pm PDT #5773 of 10002
Visilurking

But why did I never notice how strongly Bernard is coded as Jewish? (Although there are, of course, no Jews in Ford's world.)

I just reread it last month and didn't pick up on it. Of course now I'm slapping my head.


Betsy HP - Sep 09, 2004 2:37:21 pm PDT #5774 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Am I wrong, Wolfram? Please tell me I'm wrong.


Wolfram - Sep 09, 2004 2:40:15 pm PDT #5775 of 10002
Visilurking

I wish I could. He's a stereotype, but definitely a Jewish one.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 09, 2004 2:42:58 pm PDT #5776 of 10002
What is even happening?

How so? It's been years since I've read BNW. I was in high school, and wouldn't have picked up typing, unless the teacher pointed it out (which he didn't). We were talking about BNW early on in the book club thread.


Betsy HP - Sep 09, 2004 2:44:25 pm PDT #5777 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

He's short, he's dark, he's unattractive, he's pushy, and he behaves badly once he is given power.


Betsy HP - Sep 09, 2004 2:45:46 pm PDT #5778 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Think about every stereotype applied to nouveaux riches social climbers, and you've got Bernard. He doesn't really care about Art the way that the noble artist does, he just has free-floating dissatisfaction.


Wolfram - Sep 09, 2004 2:54:11 pm PDT #5779 of 10002
Visilurking

Well his name, his height, his seeming pettiness, his secret agendas. And I didn't pick up on it either, but if someone points it out, it does seem more than a little possible that it was the intent. But I have to run, so I may have more to say about it after thinking it over.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 09, 2004 3:04:45 pm PDT #5780 of 10002
What is even happening?

Okay. Wait. You wrote "secret". I read it as "sexual," more than once. I was all, "The Jewish people allegedly have a sexual agenda? Go them." This is a sign. I need to shut off the PC.

He's short, he's dark, he's unattractive, he's pushy, and he behaves badly once he is given power.

A) I hate the world

B) I would have missed the behaves badly once in power thing. I wasn't familiar with that as a type.

My sex mistake aside (oh would that it were for all of them), what is--according to the racists--the secret Jewish Agenda? Is this why the skinhead types are always talking about Jewish people in banking and the media?