Wesley: Perhaps the whole point of this experiment is hair. Gunn: I vote he's not in charge.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


erikaj - Sep 04, 2004 3:29:50 pm PDT #5717 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I still thought it was too long. You're right about that.


Volans - Sep 05, 2004 5:40:20 am PDT #5718 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Just back from Oregon, where I got to go to Powell's, all to briefly. Oh bliss! As a result, the TSAs destroyed my suitcase. It turns out you aren't supposed to pack books (ostensibly because they show up as dark blobs on X-ray, but really because books are evil) so not only did they open my suitcase and throw everything back in so that the books and other gifts got damaged, but they managed to bend the steel frame of my Samsonite.

OK, wasn't supposed to be a rant.

We were just talking about The Handmaid's Tale last night - my friend Ellen said that after she read it, she refused to check a box for Sex M/F on any form, since that was how they found you. But mostly we were talking about how a lot of the predictions have started coming to pass. Also, I'd just read Black House, the sequel to The Talisman by King and Straub and noticed that part of the "other" world was called Gilead, which was the world of The Handmaid's Tale.

Matt! My brother in love for The King in Yellow ! I'll have to check out A Rebours. But not that song; I've got Peter Wolf version somewhere, but not as effective. Although, since the Hungarians tend to have the highest suicide rate of any country, a few dozen in a year doesn't seem that odd.


Consuela - Sep 06, 2004 10:04:50 am PDT #5719 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I read Michael Marshall's The Straw Men on Saturday. It's a combination serial-killer/conspiracy novel. Quite well done, I thought: the writing moved along, and it kept me going, the story moved fast enough that I didn't stop to think how unlikely it all was until it was over.

And Marshall understands how computers work, which is nice. That said, the premise is really kinda silly. But you don't think about that until it's done.


Beverly - Sep 06, 2004 5:11:55 pm PDT #5720 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Has anybody read Sophie's World, and have any opinions on it? I picked it up today because it looked intriguing. I'm trying to decide where to shoehorn it into my TBR pile. If it's really good, I'll move it toward the top.


Polter-Cow - Sep 06, 2004 5:15:19 pm PDT #5721 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I have not read it, but a friend of mine who read it in high school highly recommended it. I've been wanting to read it for a long time.


Beverly - Sep 06, 2004 5:19:01 pm PDT #5722 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Okay, thanks! Top o' the pile it is. Top-ish, anyway.


Consuela - Sep 06, 2004 5:27:23 pm PDT #5723 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I read Sophie's World on vacation some years ago. It made me feel stupid, because I know nothing about philisophy. You do realize that it's an intro-to-philosophy text dressed up in a story, right?


Beverly - Sep 06, 2004 5:56:10 pm PDT #5724 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Yes, I got that. I'll probably feel pretty stupid about halfway through and abandon it. But I've learned more history through reading historical fiction...maybe I can learn some philosophy through a similar fashion.


justkim - Sep 06, 2004 6:21:54 pm PDT #5725 of 10002
Another social casualty...

I loved loved loved Sophie's World, although I have only read it once. I think a better introduction to Gaarder's work and his style might be The Solitaire Mystery,. which I have read several times. (It's a good comfort book.)

I think the end of SW gets a little too... odd, and it seems to distract from the rest of the book. SM is more consistent all the way through. Both strike me almost as children's books, very Alice in Wonderland -ish. Now with added philosophy! (Disclaimer: I read SW right after taking an Intro to Philosophy course, that may be why I found it interesting. I read SM shortly after reading SW.)

Gaarder really does introduce the philosophy in a very basic way in both books. In SW, Sophie is sort of taking a beginner's correspondence course, and in SM, a father is teaching his child on a trip. The philopshy is really presented more as separate from the story but is still integral to each story's resolution.

I think both are great books, and I hope you find the story interesting enough to not abandon it because of the philosophy.


Kate P. - Sep 06, 2004 7:03:01 pm PDT #5726 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Beverly, I really liked Sophie's World, though I thought The Solitaire Mystery was better at integrating the philosophy into the story. My brother and I both read it [edit: SW] several years ago while on a family vacation in Italy. My brother doesn't really like to read very much (evidence that he's really a changeling baby, I'm sure), and he was only 11 or 12 at the time, but for some reason he adored Sophie's World and raced through it. I'd never seen him take such an avid interest in a book before, and it was pretty cool to see. So that's high praise!