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We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Beverly - Sep 06, 2004 5:11:55 pm PDT #5720 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Has anybody read Sophie's World, and have any opinions on it? I picked it up today because it looked intriguing. I'm trying to decide where to shoehorn it into my TBR pile. If it's really good, I'll move it toward the top.


Polter-Cow - Sep 06, 2004 5:15:19 pm PDT #5721 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I have not read it, but a friend of mine who read it in high school highly recommended it. I've been wanting to read it for a long time.


Beverly - Sep 06, 2004 5:19:01 pm PDT #5722 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Okay, thanks! Top o' the pile it is. Top-ish, anyway.


Consuela - Sep 06, 2004 5:27:23 pm PDT #5723 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I read Sophie's World on vacation some years ago. It made me feel stupid, because I know nothing about philisophy. You do realize that it's an intro-to-philosophy text dressed up in a story, right?


Beverly - Sep 06, 2004 5:56:10 pm PDT #5724 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Yes, I got that. I'll probably feel pretty stupid about halfway through and abandon it. But I've learned more history through reading historical fiction...maybe I can learn some philosophy through a similar fashion.


justkim - Sep 06, 2004 6:21:54 pm PDT #5725 of 10002
Another social casualty...

I loved loved loved Sophie's World, although I have only read it once. I think a better introduction to Gaarder's work and his style might be The Solitaire Mystery,. which I have read several times. (It's a good comfort book.)

I think the end of SW gets a little too... odd, and it seems to distract from the rest of the book. SM is more consistent all the way through. Both strike me almost as children's books, very Alice in Wonderland -ish. Now with added philosophy! (Disclaimer: I read SW right after taking an Intro to Philosophy course, that may be why I found it interesting. I read SM shortly after reading SW.)

Gaarder really does introduce the philosophy in a very basic way in both books. In SW, Sophie is sort of taking a beginner's correspondence course, and in SM, a father is teaching his child on a trip. The philopshy is really presented more as separate from the story but is still integral to each story's resolution.

I think both are great books, and I hope you find the story interesting enough to not abandon it because of the philosophy.


Kate P. - Sep 06, 2004 7:03:01 pm PDT #5726 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Beverly, I really liked Sophie's World, though I thought The Solitaire Mystery was better at integrating the philosophy into the story. My brother and I both read it [edit: SW] several years ago while on a family vacation in Italy. My brother doesn't really like to read very much (evidence that he's really a changeling baby, I'm sure), and he was only 11 or 12 at the time, but for some reason he adored Sophie's World and raced through it. I'd never seen him take such an avid interest in a book before, and it was pretty cool to see. So that's high praise!


Beverly - Sep 06, 2004 7:31:10 pm PDT #5727 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Thanks. I may pick up The Solitaire Mystery to read first.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 06, 2004 11:27:44 pm PDT #5728 of 10002
What is even happening?

Beverly, if you think of it, when you're going to read Sophie's World, remind me, please. It's been in my TBR file for yonks. I have only not read it because there's never any quiet here.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 07, 2004 5:04:16 am PDT #5729 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

But not that song; I've got Peter Wolf version somewhere, but not as effective. Although, since the Hungarians tend to have the highest suicide rate of any country, a few dozen in a year doesn't seem that odd.

I think the only real oddity was how many people the song in particular was the final nudge for. But yeah, grim Eastern European nation to begin with, just came through a Depression that made ours look like a party, and then staring down the barrel of Hitler's panzers... you can see how the population might have been primed for the song when it made suicide seem all romantic and soothing.

Really, the tacked-on third verse so dispels the gloominess of the song that I think Billie's "Strange Fruit" ends up being more morbid and creepifying.