We killed a homeless man on this bench. Me and Dru. Those were good times. You know, he begged for mercy, and you know, that only made her bite harder.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


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There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


joe boucher - Jul 29, 2004 1:23:50 pm PDT #5414 of 10002
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

I'm guessing you meant to post that somewhere else...

Nah, it was just a typo. It should have read: “KILL WEASLEY!” Joss & Rowling couldn't work out the details, though.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 1:26:31 pm PDT #5415 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There's going to be ballet in the half-born prince? Say it ain't so.


Connie Neil - Jul 29, 2004 1:29:23 pm PDT #5416 of 10002
brillig

Makes you hope Hagrid's not the one involved, right?


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 1:34:41 pm PDT #5417 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, that wish is pretty much constant (doesn't even depend on the title), but that would make it all the more urgent.


Volans - Jul 29, 2004 3:41:33 pm PDT #5418 of 10002
move out and draw fire

And honestly, I'm not sure that Harry Potter isn't gay enough.


Trudy Booth - Jul 29, 2004 4:01:08 pm PDT #5419 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I love Hagrid.

I enjoy how his relationships to the other characters scream "this story is not American".

And I think he's a woobie.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 4:47:56 pm PDT #5420 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I enjoy how his relationships to the other characters scream "this story is not American".

Can you explain further? I think he's almost the Magical Retarded/Differently Raced. Nothing particularly unAmerican about him at all.


erikaj - Jul 29, 2004 4:50:24 pm PDT #5421 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I like Hagrid, too, but I'm pretty outside Potter Fandom except for Am and Pandarus.


Trudy Booth - Jul 29, 2004 4:52:25 pm PDT #5422 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think there is a lot of classism in Hagrid's relationship to Dumbledore particularly. It's a sort of obsequiousness that I noticed in England that is distinct and yet not necessarily offensive. I can't think of a parallel in contemporary American culture.

And they're all magical. In fact, he's the least magical character at Hogwarts.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2004 4:54:42 pm PDT #5423 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If Hagrid were not dumb or a half-breed, I might agree with it.

As is, he seems to be the touchstone -- all the good guys like him, the bad guys hate him, and it's that simple, because he's simple.

I don't see anything British about that -- American fiction will do that with someone pejoratively other too.

eta: Trudy -- you are familiar with the Magical Negro trope, right? That's what I was referring to.