I'm also frighteningly convinced by that Ron is Dumbledore argument.
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Lilty Cash - Jul 27, 2004 6:43:37 am PDT #5376 of 10002
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Lyra Jane - Jul 27, 2004 6:52:16 am PDT #5377 of 10002
Up with the sun
I'm half intrigued/convinced by Dumbledore-as-Ron, half want to smack the writer of the web site for taking a kid's book waaaaaaay too seriously.
Jessica - Jul 27, 2004 6:55:25 am PDT #5378 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
half want to smack the writer of the web site for taking a kid's book waaaaaaay too seriously.
Which is kind of ironic, considering the board you're posting this on.
Lyra Jane - Jul 27, 2004 7:02:57 am PDT #5379 of 10002
Up with the sun
Dude, if you ever find me wanking anything for more than 500 words, feel free to smack me upside the head and tell me to go get some fresh air.
Betsy HP - Jul 27, 2004 7:11:22 am PDT #5380 of 10002
If I only had a brain...
Of course, Anne.
Trudy Booth - Jul 27, 2004 8:00:49 am PDT #5381 of 10002
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Maybe Ron couldn't go back and save Buckbeak, in some part, because then there would have been THREE of him.
And it's interesting that Ron doesn't know about the time travel...
Lyra Jane - Jul 27, 2004 8:38:41 am PDT #5382 of 10002
Up with the sun
So the theory is that, at some point in the future, Ron goes back to the 19th century and takes the name of Dumbledore, right?
My questions are:
1. Why go back so far? It's odd that Ron/Dumbledore would just bide his time for 140 years or so, especially given the number of things that could go wrong that time. The obvious reason would be in hopes of preventing the Riddle/Voldemort/Death Eater crisis, but if he meant to do that, he failed. (And even then, he wouldn't have had to go back past the '50's.) As for wanting an aged physical appearance -- they're wizards, and there must be a thousand spells and glamours that would achieve that.
2. Who filled Dumbledore's role in Timeline A, the one Ron went back to correct? If there was no one, it seems likely the school would have fallen apart.
2. How was Ron's cover in the 19th century arranged? And on the same note, what have we heard about Dumbledore's boyhood? If Ron posed as an orphan/foundling wizard, as seems easiest, I would want to have heard that about Dumbledore -- that he rose from nothing -- as it would likely be part of his legend (for those who liked him) and something to be used against him (for the Malfoys and co.).
The physical resemblance is striking, though, so I'm not willing to dismiss the idea entirely. What might be possible is that in Timeline A, Dumbledore died at some point during or before that covered by the books, and Ron went back, artificially aged and head crammed with everything Dumbledore knew, to fill his shoes.
Fred Pete - Jul 27, 2004 8:43:17 am PDT #5383 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.
What might be possible is that in Timeline A, Dumbledore died at some point during or before that covered by the books, and Ron went back, artificially aged and head crammed with everything Dumbledore knew, to fill his shoes.
Or simply a family connection. It's also been established that the pureblood wizard families intermarry frequently. Therefore, it's probable that any pureblood wizard is at least a distant cousin to any other pureblood wizard.
Dana - Jul 27, 2004 8:43:51 am PDT #5384 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
And on the same note, what have we heard about Dumbledore's boyhood?
He has a brother, and I'm pretty sure someone other than Dumbledore mentions him in OoTP, since Dumbledore barely speaks in OoTP. It might even be when they're talking about the first Order members.
Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2004 8:43:56 am PDT #5385 of 10002
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2. Who filled Dumbledore's role in Timeline A, the one Ron went back to correct? If there was no one, it seems likely the school would have fallen apart.
My interpretation is there is no Timeline A, and the story is a self-contained time loop. Dumbledore existed because Ron went back and became him. It happens because it happened.