This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Sheryl - Jul 17, 2004 11:21:13 am PDT #5164 of 10002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Vacchs, in his primary mystery series, does focus on child abuse and similar things. I stopped reading his a while back when things got too dark and nasty for me. YDMV.


Consuela - Jul 17, 2004 1:02:35 pm PDT #5165 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't remember whether anyone has posted about Set This House in Order by Matt Ruff here. I'm about halfway through and enjoying it immensely. However I'm getting nervous that things are about to go desperately wrong for these people.


Jesse - Jul 17, 2004 3:39:06 pm PDT #5166 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Add me to folks who can't deal with the darkness of what Vachss usually writes. And I like dark. His stuff is just too real.


Typo Boy - Jul 17, 2004 4:37:11 pm PDT #5167 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Where I went to kindergarten in 1974 they were teaching some then-trendy reading technique where you learned the completly logical phonetic spellings of everything (including literature translated into such so you had third graders reading shakespeare and stuff). I don't know what it did for my reading, but I'm a lousy speller to this day (as are several other people I know who were subjected to that program). I wish I could remember the name of it... my kindergarten class picture has all the funny writing on the bulletin board behind us.

Back in my k-3 grade I got what was know as "whole language". Not phonetics at all. On the one hand, that is probably why I turned into a natural speed reader. On the other, I sometimes use it as an excuse for my inability to spell - though at my age the real reason has to be attributed to laziness.


Hil R. - Jul 17, 2004 4:41:41 pm PDT #5168 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

We had phonics, which made no sense at all to me because I'd already figured out how to read as a sight reader. To get me to, for instance, learn that o-y made an "oy" sound, they couldn't give me words like "boy" or "toy" to read, because I knew both of those words without looking at the letters. They had to give me things like "foy" or "doy" to force me to actually look at the letters. (I can spell in spelling bees, but not on paper. My explanation is that I know how words look printed, so I can picture the printed word and spell it out loud, but I can't look at a hand-written word and tell if it's right. It's also easier for me to type with proper spelling if I'm using a serif font, because that's how words look to my brain.)


Susan W. - Jul 17, 2004 6:15:15 pm PDT #5169 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'm the opposite--I'm a great speller on paper, but I absolutely suck at spelling aloud. Seriously. I got knocked out of the spelling bee in fourth grade for misspelling "jeep." Not that I didn't know perfectly well how it's spelled, but somehow what I said was "g-e-e-p." One of the great embarrassing moments of my childhood--I can still remember how loudly everyone laughed at me, the Smart Girl, for botching such a simple word! That was just a brain fart, of course, but with longer words I lose my place spelling aloud. If someone asks me to spell something for them, the only way I can be sure I'm right is to write or type it, and then read off the letters.

And I figured out how to read before starting school, but somehow I learned phonetically.


Katie M - Jul 17, 2004 6:52:04 pm PDT #5170 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I got knocked out of the spelling bee in fourth grade for misspelling "jeep." Not that I didn't know perfectly well how it's spelled, but somehow what I said was "g-e-e-p." One of the great embarrassing moments of my childhood--I can still remember how loudly everyone laughed at me, the Smart Girl, for botching such a simple word!

"Zucchini." I meant z and said s. I felt awful. (to my classmates' credit, I don't remember getting laughed at.)


Polter-Cow - Jul 17, 2004 7:10:37 pm PDT #5171 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"Translate." I added an extra a after the s, and I actually could have saved myself if I hadn't continued on to the a after the l, but I only came up with that strategy after it was too late. I was in sixth grade, and I lost to a fifth grader.


Connie Neil - Jul 17, 2004 8:05:31 pm PDT #5172 of 10002
brillig

I got phonics, too, and I'm a pretty good speller. Like Susan, though, if it's longer than six letters, I want to write it down to be sure. Hubby and I figure one reason we got married was so I could correct his punctuation and spelling and he could take care of tricky math concepts.


Jen - Jul 18, 2004 2:29:02 am PDT #5173 of 10002
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

For me it was "fruit". I added an "e" to the end.

Apparently left-handed people are notoriously bad spellers, so I excuse it with genetics.