Mal: Inara, think you could stoop to being on my arm? Inara: Will you wash it first?

'Heart Of Gold'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


P.M. Marc - Jul 17, 2004 10:12:58 am PDT #5159 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You can get NML 1-5 as graphic novels, but the shortform I rec is the Greg Rucka (and accomplished novelist in his own right, and former classmate of our own JZ), NML, which you can get in regular paperback.

For posterity, my current introset recommendations

  • Batman: Year One (Frank Miller)
  • Robin: Year One (Chuck Dixon)
  • Batgirl: Year One (Scott Beatty, Chuck Dixon)

This gives you a basis for the core three.

After that, recs get tailored to what you're getting into the 'verse for.

The No Man's Land novel rec is for those who want to get kind of up to speed with where things are at in the Batfam, but don't have the time or money to spend on the massive list of trades that one would suggest for that.

DKR is good, but I actually rarely re-read it, and while it's on the default list of "You Must Have This Book" for many people, I think it's not aging as well as many others.


Amy - Jul 17, 2004 10:22:03 am PDT #5160 of 10002
Because books.

Thanks for the recs! I definitely feel the beginnings of a new fascination coming on. (And I hope it's okay I called you Plei...)


Connie Neil - Jul 17, 2004 10:24:16 am PDT #5161 of 10002
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Isn't the Vachss novel the one about child abuse?


Amy - Jul 17, 2004 10:34:35 am PDT #5162 of 10002
Because books.

Connie, yeah, that's what it said. And something in the bio said that Vachss writes primarily about that topic, and his law practice focuses on children and families only.


P.M. Marc - Jul 17, 2004 10:35:12 am PDT #5163 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Thanks for the recs! I definitely feel the beginnings of a new fascination coming on. (And I hope it's okay I called you Plei...)

Yep! It's perfectly fine to call me Plei.


Sheryl - Jul 17, 2004 11:21:13 am PDT #5164 of 10002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Vacchs, in his primary mystery series, does focus on child abuse and similar things. I stopped reading his a while back when things got too dark and nasty for me. YDMV.


Consuela - Jul 17, 2004 1:02:35 pm PDT #5165 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't remember whether anyone has posted about Set This House in Order by Matt Ruff here. I'm about halfway through and enjoying it immensely. However I'm getting nervous that things are about to go desperately wrong for these people.


Jesse - Jul 17, 2004 3:39:06 pm PDT #5166 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Add me to folks who can't deal with the darkness of what Vachss usually writes. And I like dark. His stuff is just too real.


Typo Boy - Jul 17, 2004 4:37:11 pm PDT #5167 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Where I went to kindergarten in 1974 they were teaching some then-trendy reading technique where you learned the completly logical phonetic spellings of everything (including literature translated into such so you had third graders reading shakespeare and stuff). I don't know what it did for my reading, but I'm a lousy speller to this day (as are several other people I know who were subjected to that program). I wish I could remember the name of it... my kindergarten class picture has all the funny writing on the bulletin board behind us.

Back in my k-3 grade I got what was know as "whole language". Not phonetics at all. On the one hand, that is probably why I turned into a natural speed reader. On the other, I sometimes use it as an excuse for my inability to spell - though at my age the real reason has to be attributed to laziness.


Hil R. - Jul 17, 2004 4:41:41 pm PDT #5168 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

We had phonics, which made no sense at all to me because I'd already figured out how to read as a sight reader. To get me to, for instance, learn that o-y made an "oy" sound, they couldn't give me words like "boy" or "toy" to read, because I knew both of those words without looking at the letters. They had to give me things like "foy" or "doy" to force me to actually look at the letters. (I can spell in spelling bees, but not on paper. My explanation is that I know how words look printed, so I can picture the printed word and spell it out loud, but I can't look at a hand-written word and tell if it's right. It's also easier for me to type with proper spelling if I'm using a serif font, because that's how words look to my brain.)