I still do that.
Kaylee: You're nice, too. Mal: No, I'm not. I'm a mean old man.
'Serenity'
We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
erikaj - Jul 13, 2004 12:49:18 pm PDT #5093 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!
Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 12:51:43 pm PDT #5094 of 10002
brillig
I was so disappointed to be bored by "Lady Chatterley's Lover."
Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 12:52:54 pm PDT #5095 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Apparently, Peyton Place is supposed to be all scandalous, but I didn't get past the first chapter.
Topic!Cindy - Jul 13, 2004 1:11:35 pm PDT #5096 of 10002
What is even happening?
Well, we live in Babylon, pretty much. Things that were shocking then, aren't so, now. I've read neither Lady C, nor Peyton Place--nor Lolita, for that matter.
Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 1:25:12 pm PDT #5097 of 10002
brillig
It wasn't even that the naughtiness in Lady C's Lover was that ho-hum, I just thought all the characters deserved all the misery they were wallowing in. "You don't need a lover!" I yelled at the book, "you need a backbone!"
Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 1:28:52 pm PDT #5098 of 10002
brillig
Lawrence suffers terribly from datedness, I've found. His characters are these dreary, languid, ennui-ridden creatures who seem ashamed of themselves for having feelings.
§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 1:44:18 pm PDT #5099 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
What's going to age like that that looks okay right now?
Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 1:56:34 pm PDT #5100 of 10002
brillig
Very little. That's the point.
P.M. Marc - Jul 13, 2004 1:57:48 pm PDT #5101 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Heh.
DH doesn't feel dated to me. Certainly not to everyone's taste (I think his writing was often overly-facile, his prose a touch purple when it goes for blue, and were you to add one final chapter to Lady C, I could see it shelved in romance fiction--it's got that sort of feel to it), but it doesn't feel dated.
§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 2:06:27 pm PDT #5102 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
No, some books date, some books come across like a snapshot, and some remain real.
I was wondering, in your opinion, which books you like now you thought would suffer a similar fate.
Is Jennifer Crusie still going to be sexy? Or that Anita Blake stuff? Is Emmanuelle still?
I don't know -- I suspect that Crusie won't, since she's very much talking about women right now, but not in a way that will carry its context with it into the future. It's been almost 30 years since I read Emmanuelle -- I certainly didn't know from sexy then, though I do still have vague memories of a certain dress.