She ain't movin'. Serenity's not movin'.

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 12:25:37 pm PDT #5090 of 10002
brillig

Why would it be a reference to Lolita? I suspect I'm too literal some times.


Jen - Jul 13, 2004 12:30:36 pm PDT #5091 of 10002
love's a dream you enter though I shake and shake and shake you

There's a poem that Humbert writes to Lolita that talks about a starling:

Wanted, wanted: Dolores Haze.
Hair: brown. Lips: scarlet.
Age: five thousand three hundred days.
Profession: none, or "starlet"

Where are you hiding, Dolores Haze?
Why are you hiding, darling?
(I talk in a daze, I walk in a maze
I cannot get out, said the starling).

Where are you riding, Dolores Haze?
What make is the magic carpet?
Is a Cream Cougar the present craze?
And where are you parked, my car pet?

Who is your hero, Dolores Haze?
Still one of those blue-capped star-men?
Oh the balmy days and the palmy bays,
And the cars, and the bars, my Carmen!

Oh Dolores, that juke-box hurts!
Are you still dancin', darlin'?
(Both in worn levis, both in torn T-shirts,
And I, in my corner, snarlin').

Happy, happy is gnarled McFate
Touring the States with a child wife,
Plowing his Molly in every State
Among the protected wild life.

My Dolly, my folly! Her eyes were vair,
And never closed when I kissed her.
Know an old perfume called Soliel Vert?
Are you from Paris, mister?

L'autre soir un air froid d'opera m'alita;
Son fele -- bien fol est qui s'y fie!
Il neige, le decor s'ecroule, Lolita!
Lolita, qu'ai-je fait de ta vie?

Dying, dying, Lolita Haze,
Of hate and remorse, I'm dying.
And again my hairy fist I raise,
And again I hear you crying.

Officer, officer, there they go--
In the rain, where that lighted store is!
And her socks are white, and I love her so,
And her name is Haze, Dolores.

Officer, officer, there they are--
Dolores Haze and her lover!
Whip out your gun and follow that car.
Now tumble out and take cover.

Wanted, wanted: Dolores Haze.
Her dream-gray gaze never flinches.
Ninety pounds is all she weighs
With a height of sixty inches.

My car is limping, Dolores Haze,
And the last long lap is the hardest,
And I shall be dumped where the weed decays,
And the rest is rust and stardust.


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 12:47:39 pm PDT #5092 of 10002
brillig

My personal take on the poem about the daughter is that the starling is there to be a metaphor on finding freedom after struggle, while people watch who know they can't interfere or else make the struggle even harder.

I need to reread "Lolita." I confess I only read it decades ago because it was supposed to be naughty. I'm so low-brow.


erikaj - Jul 13, 2004 12:49:18 pm PDT #5093 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I still do that.


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 12:51:43 pm PDT #5094 of 10002
brillig

I was so disappointed to be bored by "Lady Chatterley's Lover."


Polter-Cow - Jul 13, 2004 12:52:54 pm PDT #5095 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Apparently, Peyton Place is supposed to be all scandalous, but I didn't get past the first chapter.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 13, 2004 1:11:35 pm PDT #5096 of 10002
What is even happening?

Well, we live in Babylon, pretty much. Things that were shocking then, aren't so, now. I've read neither Lady C, nor Peyton Place--nor Lolita, for that matter.


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 1:25:12 pm PDT #5097 of 10002
brillig

It wasn't even that the naughtiness in Lady C's Lover was that ho-hum, I just thought all the characters deserved all the misery they were wallowing in. "You don't need a lover!" I yelled at the book, "you need a backbone!"


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2004 1:28:52 pm PDT #5098 of 10002
brillig

Lawrence suffers terribly from datedness, I've found. His characters are these dreary, languid, ennui-ridden creatures who seem ashamed of themselves for having feelings.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2004 1:44:18 pm PDT #5099 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's going to age like that that looks okay right now?