Don't kill anyone if you don't have to. We're here to make a deal.

Mal ,'Serenity'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Betsy HP - Jul 08, 2004 5:30:39 am PDT #4764 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I loved Powers and Blaylock soooo much when they burst onto the scene. I slowly lost interest in Blaylock, but still think Powers is a genius. It's not steampunk, but On Stranger Tides is cool and mysterious and interesting. Blackbeard! Puppets! Voodoo! Voodoo pirate puppets, and I am NOT making this up.

It's probably out of print, but Blaylock's Homonculus, probably his most steampunky, has an important character who is a street-seller of squid. I love Blaylock's matter-of-fact Surrealism.


Kate P. - Jul 08, 2004 5:34:18 am PDT #4765 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I keep meaning to give the Lemony Snicket books another go; I read the first one and liked it, but never picked up any of the others. Daniel Handler (Lemony Snicket's alter ego) wrote a book I read a few years back, The Basic Eight, which I liked a lot. And a coworker just gave me another of his books, Watch Your Mouth, which has a review on the back that calls it an "incest-parody gothic Jewish porn opera" or something similarly over-the-top, and I can't help thinking it can't ever live up to that.


Snacky - Jul 08, 2004 5:51:03 am PDT #4766 of 10002
Like I need a hole in my head

I've only read the first Lemony Snicket - am a very bad bookseller. I keep meaning to get to the others, but I'm always distracted by shinier books. I met Daniel Handler once at BEA, and I was trying to get him to come and sign at the store I worked for at the time, and hadn't had any luck. He told me if I wrote a request and worked the word "syphilis" into it, he would definitely come. Heh. He never showed.

I loved Matilda and the two Charlie books.

The Great Brain books remind me of the Alvin Fernald books. Did anyone else ever read them? Am I showing my age again?


Consuela - Jul 08, 2004 5:52:25 am PDT #4767 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm pretty sure the novel Consuela is referring to is actually Old Goriot!

D'oh! Billytea is so totally right. Although the edition I read called it Pere Goriot. I got it confused with something I read by Zola not long after, the one about the courtesan.


billytea - Jul 08, 2004 5:55:11 am PDT #4768 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

D'oh! Billytea is so totally right.

I am! But I didn't say that. I'm right in other, more subtle ways, some of which don't involve me saying or even thinking anything. People say, "What's with the 'tude?" That 'tude? Is rectitude.


joe boucher - Jul 08, 2004 6:00:20 am PDT #4769 of 10002
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

People say, "What's with the 'tude?" That 'tude? Is rectitude.

Damn straight!


Betsy HP - Jul 08, 2004 6:21:23 am PDT #4770 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

On the French thing, I have another question. The French and the Germans do Shakespeare in translation all the time. Why do so few plays move in the other direction? We get lots of Moliere and Ibsen, of course, but what happened to Racine? I understand that he's one of the Big Important French Playwrights, but I hardly see his stuff performed. Is it untranslatable? And I have no idea who the corresponding German would be. Goethe, of course, but Faust is not so much with the performability.


Maysa - Jul 08, 2004 6:21:33 am PDT #4771 of 10002

Thanks, Consuela, Angus, Nutty, and Fred for the Balzac recommendations.


Wolfram - Jul 08, 2004 6:39:15 am PDT #4772 of 10002
Visilurking

Powers and Blaylock are friends and have both critiqued each other and written together, so you may find Blaylock worth checking out even in non-steampunk mode, Wolfram.

Thanks, I'll do that.

What do y'all think of Lemony Snicket? I read A Bad Beginning, and found his style irritatingly arch, but I know he's well-regarded.

At first it seemed very too gimmicky, but he grows on you like a bad habit. Now I can't wait for the last three.


Micole - Jul 08, 2004 6:41:42 am PDT #4773 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I've read embarassingly little Moorcock, Jim. I tried the first Elric book when I was *just* too old for it--old enough to be embarassed by the extravagance I'd have liked before, not old enough to fuck embarassment and give in away. And I read an odd obscure one called -- The Ice Schooner? The Land Whale? Weird menage a trois set in a postapocalyptic glacier-covered Earth? -- that put me off.

The more I hear about how all Moorcock connects to all other Moorcock, the more bewildered I feel about which book to pick up first.