Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


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Jessica - Jun 30, 2004 11:25:12 am PDT #3731 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He wished Hermione would die in CoS. Does that count?


§ ita § - Jun 30, 2004 11:27:34 am PDT #3732 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He wished Hermione would die in CoS. Does that count?

Then damn us all to hell.

Or just me a whole bunch of times.


Betsy HP - Jun 30, 2004 11:30:58 am PDT #3733 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

ita is dead to me. Again.

I've had a long fannish discussion, and I am convinced Hagrid should be fired over the Buckbeak affair. Draco said something snarky to the hippogriff -- which he hadn't been warned against doing -- and suffered a life-threatening attack. Hagrid has no concept whatever of student safety. If a shop teacher had the injury rate we see in Hagrid's class, he'd be fired.


Polter-Cow - Jun 30, 2004 11:32:34 am PDT #3734 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Draco said something snarky to the hippogriff -- which he hadn't been warned against doing

Didn't Hagrid begin the lesson by telling them to show it respect?


§ ita § - Jun 30, 2004 11:33:55 am PDT #3735 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hagrid's awful. He may be nice, but he's dangerous. These are kids, in loco parentis and all that.

However, the other teachers seem pretty cavalier about life and limb. I just resent Hagrid being given so much emotional space.


Dana - Jun 30, 2004 11:34:38 am PDT #3736 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It wasn't a life-threatening injury. Draco played it up drastically. He got a slash on the arm. And given that Neville's family forced magic out of him by tossing him out of the window, I think it's safe to say that the wizarding world doesn't coddle their kids.


Jessica - Jun 30, 2004 11:35:08 am PDT #3737 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Draco said something snarky to the hippogriff -- which he hadn't been warned against doing

Had too! Hagrid made a huge deal out of how important it was to be polite to hippogryffs, because if you don't, they get mad and try to kill you. Draco ignored him and taunted Buckbeak anyway, figuring that no mere animal would dare attack a Malfoy.

(I also think that when you have a school nurse who can magically regrow bones, you're allowed to have a slightly more relaxed attitude about putting students at risk of injury.)


Aims - Jun 30, 2004 11:41:06 am PDT #3738 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

What Jessica said.


Betsy HP - Jun 30, 2004 11:41:15 am PDT #3739 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

The good/evil divide in Rowlingland pretty much is People Whom Dumbledore Likes/People Whom Dumbledore Doesn't Like.

(I also think that when you have a school nurse who can magically regrow bones, you're allowed to have a slightly more relaxed attitude about putting students at risk of injury.)

True. But Hagrid regularly puts the students at risk of death.

[edit

Hagrid made a huge deal out of how important it was to be polite to hippogryffs, because if you don't, they get mad and try to kill you.

Did Hagrid mention that they could understand human speech? He told them to bow and back away slowly, but he didn't say "These are quasi-intelligent creatures." ]


Dana - Jun 30, 2004 11:47:12 am PDT #3740 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Harry's been knocked out at least twice playing Quidditch, right? Plus that bit where his arm broke, and then Lockhart dissolved his bones. And Dumbledore pretty much regularly condones sending Harry into a nice spot of mortal danger.