It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Jesse - Jun 08, 2004 3:20:53 pm PDT #3185 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hey, thanks Betsy et al! I got Nerd In Shining Armor from the library today, am about halfway through, and it's SO CUTE. Loving it.

In less-good news, I just read this book Outburst by R. D. Zimmerman, and it was just not very good. It's part of a series, apparently, about this gay reporter in Minneapolis. The book was just kind of lame, and there were the kind of editing things that drive me bugfuck, but I was most bothered by this Tragic Tranny character...who had been castrated in a freak accident. Dude.


brenda m - Jun 08, 2004 4:48:00 pm PDT #3186 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Hey, thanks Betsy et al! I got Nerd In Shining Armor from the library today, am about halfway through, and it's SO CUTE. Loving it.

Oh, good, I'm glad to see it mentioned. I've been debating about picking it up but it seemed like it could be good or really awful. Will add it to the list.

Jesse, I have that other book, too, but I think I dropped it about twenty pages in. Definitely won't pick it back up again now.


Strix - Jun 08, 2004 4:53:44 pm PDT #3187 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

My sister recced NiSA, and while we are usually pretty simpatico on our reading picks, I was dubious. Guess I'll give it a whirl.


Jesse - Jun 09, 2004 4:04:31 am PDT #3188 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It's goofy as hell, sweet and cute. With sex.

Jesse, I have that other book, too, but I think I dropped it about twenty pages in. Definitely won't pick it back up again now.

Probably a good call. I found myself unreasonably annoyed by the most jackass things -- at one point there's a reproduction of an article found in a Nexis search, and the word count in the header is way too short.


Consuela - Jun 09, 2004 8:17:03 am PDT #3189 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

So I just finished The Steerswoman's Road, which is an omnibus edition of The Steerswoman and The Outskirter's Secret, by Rosemary Kirstein. It was marvelous. I couldn't put it down. I loved the writing, the world she built, the characters, and the plot.

Oh, the plot! So cool and sneaky and I figured out a bunch of it but not the last twist, which made perfect sense given what she'd set up.

In some ways this series reminds me of The Book of Ash by Mary Gentle, which also (spoilers for both) presents as a fantasy and turns out to be science fiction. Good stuff.

Now I need to find the 3rd one, and I bet I won't before I come back from my vacation. t pouts

So great to have something meaty and fun and smart to read.


Nutty - Jun 09, 2004 8:21:11 am PDT #3190 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Suela, I enjoyed Kirstein too. Although I was kind of annoyed at finding out it's not a self-contained series, but an ongoing one. It's one of those things where, having glimpsed the denouement, I'm plenty ready to see it now, and am impatient with all the stuff that happens in-between.

Is that a crappy attitude to pull? It's about half "skip to the end!" and half worry that the author will get mired in her own ideas and never make it to the end at all.


Consuela - Jun 09, 2004 8:22:18 am PDT #3191 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah. And I just read the Amazon reviews of the next one, and discovered that that's not the end either. Feh.

Want more! Now! grrr.

Nutty, have you read Mary Gentle?


Connie Neil - Jun 09, 2004 8:23:22 am PDT #3192 of 10002
brillig

Mary Gentle's "Grunts" is funny and crude and cool. I haven't read anything else of hers, though. Is it funny as well?


Nutty - Jun 09, 2004 8:26:54 am PDT #3193 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

No, I haven't. More to add to the list.

Micole informed me that #4 in the Steerswoman books is coming out in the fall, and that's not the end either. Current word is, planning for 7.

This is the point at which I worry.

General world-building series, I give a pass, because they're not specifically plotted-toward-a-climax, but Kirstein is very much plotted that way. Tad Williams suffers from story-bloat as he gets into the middle/ends of his series, too, but thus far I think he's kept it down to 3-4 volumes in each of his series. Like, the most immense volumes you will ever see, as wide as the American Heritage Dictionary, but only 3-4 of them.


Consuela - Jun 09, 2004 8:32:20 am PDT #3194 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Seven? Oh, that's not good. Damn.

Connie, the Ash novels are... um. How to describe them? Genre-bending mind-fuckery. Densely plotted. Gritty and brutal and smart. Guaranteed to upend your assumptions and make you go, "holy shit!" at least a couple of times.

Brutal, though. Lots of battles, lots of deaths. Creative as hell.

I think they're brilliant, but they're not for everyone.