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We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Katerina Bee - Jun 03, 2004 9:45:43 am PDT #3026 of 10002
Herding cats for fun

Betsy - I finished China Court. Thanks for the recommendation! I enjoyed it very much, although one incident at the end pretty much hocked a loogey into the fine Waterford crystal of the story. I'm still angry about it and muttering about just what I would have done.


Dani - Jun 03, 2004 9:49:35 am PDT #3027 of 10002
I believe vampires are the world's greatest golfers

A lot of people dislike Tehanu--I have to confess here I haven't read it--because they find it a little too polemically feminist

I will spare everyone my knee-jerk rant on this topic, and merely note that including women does not automagically make a book feminist. (Not directed at you, of course, Katie.)


Strix - Jun 03, 2004 9:51:45 am PDT #3028 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Hey, I'm so excited! I just bought used versions of "The Door in the Hedge" and "A Knot in the Grain" from Amazon!

Why didn't I try that a year ago?


Betsy HP - Jun 03, 2004 9:53:34 am PDT #3029 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Katerina Bee, what got up your nose? The arranged marriage?

And did you notice who fathered Ripsie's firstborn?

[edited to correct spoiler question]


Strix - Jun 03, 2004 9:57:06 am PDT #3030 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

You know, I've never been all that into LeGuin. I think her non-fiction is fantastic, but for some reason, her fiction leaves me utterly cold.


Dana - Jun 03, 2004 9:59:44 am PDT #3031 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And I love, love, love the first Beauty. I feel like I should appreciate the second one more (more mature, more insightful, blah, blah, blah) but I just love the first one so much more.

Me too. Might be a question of reading the first one at an impressionable age, but I love it. The second one...I found less accessible. I need to reread it.

I also really like Spindle's End, although I seem to remember that there are some around here who don't. It's a nicely formed world, and I like the characters.

The end of The Hero and the Crown bugs me enough that I prefer The Blue Sword, although once I started writing myself and reading other people's writing critically, there are some bits that come across as stilted to me. But I love Harry.

I have A Door in the Hedge around here somewhere...


Beverly - Jun 03, 2004 10:04:35 am PDT #3032 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh, I LOVE A Knot in the Grain. There's one story in that collection--"Buttercups"? I think? That is just redolent of pastoral land-magic.

Shameful confession: I've never read LeGuin. I started A Wizard of Earthsea and it didn't grab me. I wandered away and was never compelled to pick her up again. Over time I think I conflated her with MZ Bradley (gag).

Anyone read The Heaven Tree trilogy by Edith Pargeter, AKA Ellis Peters? I love the Cadfaels and Peters' standalone mysteries, but THT is daunting in sheer size.

(edited for errant apostraphe)


Strix - Jun 03, 2004 10:07:22 am PDT #3033 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

The end of The Hero and the Crown bugs me enough that I prefer The Blue Sword, although once I started writing myself and reading other people's writing critically, there are some bits that come across as stilted to me. But I love Harry

Me, too. I don't understand why Aerin and Luthe fell in love; I was kind of rooting for Tor. And the magic was not explained well; it's like "it's magic! So, believe!" and I have a problem with that now.


Micole - Jun 03, 2004 10:07:42 am PDT #3034 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

The first three Earthsea books are A Wizard of Earthsea, The Tombs of Atuan, and The Farthest Shore, written fairly close together, and the last three are Tehanu, Tales of Earthsea, (short stories), and The Other Wind, written about twenty years later. And I do find Tehanu polemically feminist in a problematic way, despite being a feminist myself and liking many polemical books, because there's a significant change in register and approach between it and the earlier books. Tales of Earthsea and The Other Wind do a better job of integrating Le Guin's reconceived gender politics with the worldbuilding she'd already done, imho.

Most of Le Guin's fiction struck me as admirable but cold for a long time (though I've always been fond of The Lathe of Heaven), but something finally clicked for me a few years ago.

Robin McKinley is going to be one of the guests of honor at next year's Wiscon, btw.


Ouise - Jun 03, 2004 11:00:30 am PDT #3035 of 10002
Socks are a running theme throughout the series. They are used as symbols of freedom, redemption and love.

I think A Door in the Hedge has been re-printed -- I saw it in the children's section of a bookstore last week.

I just checked Amazon and it was re-issued in 2003 in paperback.