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We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Micole - Jun 03, 2004 10:07:42 am PDT #3034 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

The first three Earthsea books are A Wizard of Earthsea, The Tombs of Atuan, and The Farthest Shore, written fairly close together, and the last three are Tehanu, Tales of Earthsea, (short stories), and The Other Wind, written about twenty years later. And I do find Tehanu polemically feminist in a problematic way, despite being a feminist myself and liking many polemical books, because there's a significant change in register and approach between it and the earlier books. Tales of Earthsea and The Other Wind do a better job of integrating Le Guin's reconceived gender politics with the worldbuilding she'd already done, imho.

Most of Le Guin's fiction struck me as admirable but cold for a long time (though I've always been fond of The Lathe of Heaven), but something finally clicked for me a few years ago.

Robin McKinley is going to be one of the guests of honor at next year's Wiscon, btw.


Ouise - Jun 03, 2004 11:00:30 am PDT #3035 of 10002
Socks are a running theme throughout the series. They are used as symbols of freedom, redemption and love.

I think A Door in the Hedge has been re-printed -- I saw it in the children's section of a bookstore last week.

I just checked Amazon and it was re-issued in 2003 in paperback.


Strix - Jun 03, 2004 11:18:48 am PDT #3036 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Well, do I feel all behind the times! But I'm glad, cause I can read it again.


Consuela - Jun 03, 2004 11:18:53 am PDT #3037 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Anyone read The Heaven Tree trilogy by Edith Pargeter

God, yes. Worth reading, Beverly. In one of the Kate Shugak mysteries by Dana Stabenow, Kate is on a salmon fishing boat in the middle of the Bering Straits, crying over The Heaven Tree Trilogy. I love that.

It's a marvelous trilogy about art, love, death, family, vengeance, and forgiveness. Written in Pargeter's lucid prose. These are not people of now, they are people of then, and you love them and hate them in equal measure. I loved it.

The Brothers of Gwynedd Quartet, oddly enough, didn't have nearly as much impact, possibly because it's less fictional. But I really liked A Bloody Field by Shrewsbury, which is all about Prince Hal and Hotspur.

Pargeter also wrote a marvelous sequence of novels about a WWII-era soldier, while the war was ongoing. Which makes it that much more compelling, since she didn't know how it was going to end when she started it. I forget the name, will have to research.

I love McKinley but I had problems with Spindle's End, don't remember why. I admit I like her earlier stuff better, as well. That could be purely emotional.


Katerina Bee - Jun 03, 2004 12:24:36 pm PDT #3038 of 10002
Herding cats for fun

Betsy, it wasn't the arranged marriage. It was the slap. I think that sort of self-righteous attitude (See? I told you I would do it!) would have made the master of the house progressively more difficult to live with. I wished to do great damage to him with that poker. In a proactive, this is going to be more trouble to you than it's worth sort of way. So I guess it's a good thing the author had a more pliant woman in that scene, one who was willing to put up with a little wedding night domestic violence.

... I don't remember curious circumstances regarding the conception of Ripsie's firstborn. Borowis?


Beverly - Jun 03, 2004 1:12:27 pm PDT #3039 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Thanks, Suela. I actually have read--and loved--the middle book. And started the first. It was just so daunting a beginning I couldn't really get a running start on it. Plus, I think my attention span has shortened. It's all that web-surfing and instant gratification, I tell you! But I will assay it once more, once I pull up my socks.


Volans - Jun 03, 2004 2:18:13 pm PDT #3040 of 10002
move out and draw fire

OK, hivemind: a colleague's asked me for book recommendations, and while I can cover several genres, spy novels ain't one of them. So I figured (since I'm reading The Wisdom of Crowds ) that all of us are smarter than no single member, I'd ask all of us. What are the key spy novels to read?

(edited in order to use actual English grammar)


deborah grabien - Jun 03, 2004 2:19:57 pm PDT #3041 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

What are the key spy novels to read?

Anything that says "John le Carre" on the spine.

And I'm a fan of the original Bond novels, rather than the shlocky movies; in the books, Bond always gets his heart broken and rarely gets the girl.


sarameg - Jun 03, 2004 2:22:26 pm PDT #3042 of 10002

Some of Nevill Shute's are spy-ish, though I think he's better known as a war author.


Connie Neil - Jun 03, 2004 2:27:30 pm PDT #3043 of 10002
brillig

Robert Ludlum. If your rec-recipient is into spoofs at all, "The Road to Omaha" is downright hysterical. What's the other Road book, "Road to Gandolfo"? Omaha is better.

For straight up Ludlum, "Parsival Mosaic." Twisted spy plotlines and a romance that made me smile.