Out. For. A. Walk. ... Bitch.

Spike ,'Selfless'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Polter-Cow - May 04, 2004 11:11:19 am PDT #2637 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Which came first chronologically?


Atropa - May 04, 2004 11:13:35 am PDT #2638 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Jilli, did you not like Delicate Dependency, by Michael Talbot? One of my favourites about vampires. The head vampire, Lodovico, is amazing.

I *did* like it, and can only offer sleep-dep as the reason for leaving it off my list.

I am currently trying to force myself to finish The Book of Common Dread by Brent Monahan, and suspect I'm going to be giving up on it soon.


deborah grabien - May 04, 2004 11:13:46 am PDT #2639 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Which came first chronologically?

Which? Did you mean Dracula or Frankenstein? Because Frankenstein was about 70 years earlier - Mary Shelley was Regency period (she was born at the end of the 18th century), and Stoker was a Victorian Irishman.


Atropa - May 04, 2004 11:14:38 am PDT #2640 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Jilli, how do you feel about Brust's Agyar?

I haven't read it in about 10 years. I remember liking it, but I really need to track down a copy and re-read it.


Strix - May 04, 2004 11:16:13 am PDT #2641 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I'm so glad to see Brite on your list! I like her a lot; she distrubs me, but she writes very well.

I've been trying to find Exquisite Corpse for a couple of years, and never run into it. Have you read it?


Atropa - May 04, 2004 11:21:20 am PDT #2642 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I'm so glad to see Brite on your list! I like her a lot; she distrubs me, but she writes very well.

I like her writing, but for me, nothing she has written comes close to Lost Souls, except (surprisingly) for the novel she did for The Crow franchise.

I've been trying to find Exquisite Corpse for a couple of years, and never run into it. Have you read it?

I have, and I'm kinda meh about it. To me, it comes across as her writing thinly-disguised RPF porn that hits all her kinks AND managing to get paid for it. Yes, Poppy, we know. Yes, you're fascinated by serial killers. You really, REALLY want to be a queer Asian man in his 20s. That's nice. Now write about something else.


sumi - May 04, 2004 11:22:08 am PDT #2643 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

beth b -- thank you! And guess what? My local library has both SWV and UD+UW.

Two rather silly vampire novels to look for.


Typo Boy - May 04, 2004 11:22:37 am PDT #2644 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And actually I remembered wrong. Times of day were not deadly to him, but when he could transform:

..His power ceases, as does that of all evil things, at the coming of the day....

... he can only change himself at noon or at exact sunrise or sunset. These things we are told, and in this record of ours we have proof by inference. Thus, whereas he can do as he will within his limit, when he have his earth-home,his coffin-home, his hellhome, the place unhallowed, as we saw when he went to the grave of the suicide at Whitby, still at other time he can only change when the time come. It is said, too, that he can only pass running water at the slack or the flood of the tide. ...

So in his resting place he change anytime, outside it only at sunrise, noon and sunset exactly.

That also explains how he can cross running water - only at the flod tide. So Stoker did play the game more or less fairly - very definite strengths and weakness for his vampires.


JohnSweden - May 04, 2004 11:26:03 am PDT #2645 of 10002
I can't even.

Any thoughts on Dan Simmons' Carrion Comfort? I much preferred the novella and found it ineffably cool and vital. The novel seemed a bit padded, compared to the economy of the shorter form, but maybe I should read the novel again now and see if it fares any better.


Polter-Cow - May 04, 2004 11:26:54 am PDT #2646 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Because Frankenstein was about 70 years earlier - Mary Shelley was Regency period (she was born at the end of the 18th century), and Stoker was a Victorian Irishman.

Oh, okay. Maybe I'll read Franky first, then.