Nothin'. I just wanted you to face me so she could get behind ya.

Mal ,'The Train Job'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


sumi - May 04, 2004 11:22:08 am PDT #2643 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

beth b -- thank you! And guess what? My local library has both SWV and UD+UW.

Two rather silly vampire novels to look for.


Typo Boy - May 04, 2004 11:22:37 am PDT #2644 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And actually I remembered wrong. Times of day were not deadly to him, but when he could transform:

..His power ceases, as does that of all evil things, at the coming of the day....

... he can only change himself at noon or at exact sunrise or sunset. These things we are told, and in this record of ours we have proof by inference. Thus, whereas he can do as he will within his limit, when he have his earth-home,his coffin-home, his hellhome, the place unhallowed, as we saw when he went to the grave of the suicide at Whitby, still at other time he can only change when the time come. It is said, too, that he can only pass running water at the slack or the flood of the tide. ...

So in his resting place he change anytime, outside it only at sunrise, noon and sunset exactly.

That also explains how he can cross running water - only at the flod tide. So Stoker did play the game more or less fairly - very definite strengths and weakness for his vampires.


JohnSweden - May 04, 2004 11:26:03 am PDT #2645 of 10002
I can't even.

Any thoughts on Dan Simmons' Carrion Comfort? I much preferred the novella and found it ineffably cool and vital. The novel seemed a bit padded, compared to the economy of the shorter form, but maybe I should read the novel again now and see if it fares any better.


Polter-Cow - May 04, 2004 11:26:54 am PDT #2646 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Because Frankenstein was about 70 years earlier - Mary Shelley was Regency period (she was born at the end of the 18th century), and Stoker was a Victorian Irishman.

Oh, okay. Maybe I'll read Franky first, then.


Typo Boy - May 04, 2004 11:28:50 am PDT #2647 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

JohnSweden totally with you. The novella was far superior to the novel in my opinion. Ditto with Orson Scott Card's Lost Boys.


deborah grabien - May 04, 2004 11:29:13 am PDT #2648 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

P-C, they're both brilliant, but also definitely period pieces.

Gar, that answers that. Perfect! Thanks.


Strix - May 04, 2004 11:30:25 am PDT #2649 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

To me, it comes across as her writing thinly-disguised RPF porn that hits all her kinks AND managing to get paid for it. Yes, Poppy, we know. Yes, you're fascinated by serial killers. You really, REALLY want to be a queer Asian man in his 20s. That's nice. Now write about something else.

Oh, dear. That was kind of the impression I'd gotten from the except had had read, but I had hoped that the book would delve off into better waters. (Wow, that's a mixed metphor.)

I remember I caught the excerpt off a website she shares (shared?) with a couple of other writers -- I read a book called "Silk" and rather liked it, but I can't remember the last name of the writer. Caitlin C-something. Gosh, that was a couple of years ago -- I can't remember if it was explicitly about vampires or more about psychic vamps.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?


Atropa - May 04, 2004 11:31:08 am PDT #2650 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Any thoughts on Dan Simmons' Carrion Comfort? I much preferred the novella and found it ineffably cool and vital. The novel seemed a bit padded, compared to the economy of the shorter form, but maybe I should read the novel again now and see if it fares any better.

Don't bother re-reading the novel. The novella is the better version.


Susan W. - May 04, 2004 11:31:50 am PDT #2651 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

When I was a college freshman, instead of standard freshman English, we all had little seminars with 5-15 students, lots of writing and discussion, and quirky individualized topics. Mine was "The Fairy Tale and 19th Century Gothic Literature." We read lots of fairy tales in their pre-sanitized versions, and then went on to The Castle of Otranto, Frankenstein, Dracula, and Wuthering Heights.

This discussion is taking me back to 1989, and discussing the stories and books around the table with a handful of other earnest 17- and 18-year-olds and a professor who loved her work. I adored that class, even while having no idea how unusual it was and how lucky I was to be there.


amyparker - May 04, 2004 11:33:10 am PDT #2652 of 10002
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

-- I read a book called "Silk" and rather liked it, but I can't remember the last name of the writer. Caitlin C-something.

Caitlin Kiernan, maybe? I read that: it creeped me out and I adored it.