My god...he's gonna do the whole speech.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


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There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Hil R. - Apr 20, 2004 8:00:08 pm PDT #2297 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I really hate reading anything longer than a few words in italics. It screws up the shapes of the words and makes it take twice as long to read. There have been a whole bunch of books that everyone tells me are great, that I just haven't read because they've got pages on end in italics, and I know I wouldn't be able to read it. (Same thing with sans-serif fonts, to a lesser degree. I can read it, but it just takes a little longer.)


deborah grabien - Apr 20, 2004 9:39:03 pm PDT #2298 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I honestly can hear my own teeth grind at the fancy-font-changing stuff.

What on earth good does it do? How does it advance the story? How does it enrich the characters? How does it do anything at all except distract? If you're doing it to denote a separation at a moment in the story, cool; I use that to separate ghost from thought, because sometimes both voices are in one's character's head. But for every single character?

Dude, just friggin write, already.


brenda m - Apr 21, 2004 2:53:59 am PDT #2299 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The Picoult book is killing me! She's changing font for different voices, chapter by chapter. I can figure things out pretty well with just a character name at the beginning of the chapter, thanks.

Oh, that would drive me batshit. I've come across things like that in fanfic, though not in actual books before. Aside from disrupting the flow, it makes me feel like the author is either a) unable to adequately differentiate the characters through, oh say, the writing, or b) assumes I lack the ability to pick up on those distinctions without some sort of clue. Feh. I'm sure that's not always the intent, but by that point they've pretty much lost me.


Calli - Apr 21, 2004 3:37:44 am PDT #2300 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

She's changing font for different voices, chapter by chapter.

Ugh. Is she insecure? Did Adobe bribe her to showcase their latest version of Garamond? If she can't write well enough for us to know what character is speaking without fancy font stuff, why is she being published?

The layout folks must despise her.


Micole - Apr 21, 2004 3:54:56 am PDT #2301 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Katherine Blake (aka Dorothy Heydt)'s Interior Life uses different fonts for its main storyline about a 70s Berkeley housewife, the fantastical quest world she is either imagining or psychically linked to, and for [spoiler]. I think it adds a lot to the book, not least allowing her to shift from character/world to character/world mid-sentence, which gives a sense of the worlds interpenetrating and affecting each other while still being understandable.

I'm also fine with different fonts used to indicate letters, newspaper articles, telegrams, etc., especially in "false document" narratives. (I still think the larger category should have a cool name, like "epistolary novel," damnit.)

Aside from that, not so much. And I HATE funky ink colors with a passion. Black is default; I don't notice it; I notice the words. Other colors distract me.


Steph L. - Apr 21, 2004 4:03:21 am PDT #2302 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I really hate reading anything longer than a few words in italics. It screws up the shapes of the words and makes it take twice as long to read. There have been a whole bunch of books that everyone tells me are great, that I just haven't read because they've got pages on end in italics, and I know I wouldn't be able to read it.

I think the fact that Owen's dialogue was all in ASSCAPS is a big part of what made me dislike A Prayer for Owen Meany.


Lilty Cash - Apr 21, 2004 4:22:27 am PDT #2303 of 10002
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

That's the thing- until now she's been a perfectly enjoyable writer. I finished the book, and while its not my favorite, its decent. There was no need to resort to gimmicks. She showcased her astonishing font trick for a brief segment near the end, with each character getting a page, talking about how its raining (yeah, it wasn't great.) The font changes so quickly there it is IMPOSSIBLE not to notice. It's like the book is standing up on a chair, waving its arms at me, saying "Look! I'm clever!".


deborah grabien - Apr 21, 2004 7:04:22 am PDT #2304 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I think it adds a lot to the book, not least allowing her to shift from character/world to character/world mid-sentence, which gives a sense of the worlds interpenetrating and affecting each other while still being understandable.

Yep. When you're dealing with the fantastic, some separation is needed. And in those circs, I think it not only helps the story, but is necessary.

But totally with Micole, on the otherwise, not so much thing.


Jess M. - Apr 21, 2004 7:36:05 am PDT #2305 of 10002
Let me just say that popularity with people on public transportation does not equal literary respect. --Jesse

I finished Oryx and Crake last night, by Margaret Atwood. I found it a really interesting book. Anyone else read it? I generally like her novels (I think I've read 4 or 5). This one is much more like The Handmaid's Tale then The Blind Assassin or Alias Grace.


Java cat - Apr 21, 2004 9:43:44 am PDT #2306 of 10002
Not javachik

I listened to Oryx and Crake on books on tape and loved it. It reminded me of A Brave New World more than The Handmaid's Tale. Handmaid's Tale was distressing, in the same way A Thousand Acres was distressing. It left me feel wrung out and disturbed, and in the case of HT, really, really angry. O&C on the other hand, and BNW for that matter, just made me think and the stories were enjoyable to read. Does that make sense?

eta: I've been thinking of reading another of Atwood's books. What do you recommend? Something more like O&C and not like HT, please.