This money, it is too much. You should have some small refund.

Niska ,'War Stories'


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There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


P.M. Marc - Apr 11, 2004 9:53:32 pm PDT #2169 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It was. Tight, crisp, and totally unlike his other stuff.


Gris - Apr 11, 2004 9:54:35 pm PDT #2170 of 10002
Hey. New board.

I haven't checked Zodiac out. Will, soon, probably. Especially on the rec.


sarameg - Apr 12, 2004 6:51:18 am PDT #2171 of 10002

Also, my father loaned me Don't Let's Go to the Dogs Tonight, which I'm really looking forward to. Didn't someone else here read it recently?

I've read it in the past year or so, and rather enjoyed it. I think there was someone else here too, though.


Consuela - Apr 12, 2004 7:03:21 am PDT #2172 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Actually, Plei, you're right. Zodiac has a good ending. I think. Been a while. What I remember most about that book is the brilliant description of a bicyclist trying to cross three lanes of traffic to take a left turn off of Commonwealth Ave in Kenmore Square in Boston.

why didn't you like O Jerusalem

Mary Sue, Mary Sue, Mary Sue. Mary Russell learns Arabic in six weeks, shoots like a sniper, understands the complex local politics, convinces their misogynistic guides that a woman can be as cool and tough as they are, flirts and captivates diplomats at the embassy soiree.... Mary Russell is perfect and everyone lurves her! Gah. Even her "flaws" are the approved ones: stubborn, decisive, too intelligent and independent for her time. Bleah.

Just once I want to see a historical novel where the flaw of the character is that she's too passive, and everyone around her recognizes it.

I liked A Darker Place but I'm worried that if I reread it I'll find it too self-indulgent and fanficcy.


Atropa - Apr 12, 2004 9:22:45 am PDT #2173 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I like Diamond Age, (NeoVictorians! Hee!) and just accept the fact that he can't manage to write endings.

Are you guys familiar with a vampire book that features a new vampire who is obsessed with finding her collection of shoes that had been disbursed by her family when she died?

My first thought was "Huh. I bet if I became a vampire, I would do that." Sad, really. But now I must track down more info on that book.


Polter-Cow - Apr 12, 2004 9:37:23 am PDT #2174 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I find it less fun than Snow Crash and less impressive than Cryptonomicon/Quicksilver but I think I might like it better than any of them.

Ooh. Snow Crash was great, and I'm 300 pages from finishing Cryptonomicon. I'm in my third month!

And yes, after Snow Crash, I'm not expecting it to have an ending. It's odd, because I've been reading it for so long I want to finish it so I can move on to other things, yet I almost feel like I don't want it to end. Because then no more random tangents about Cap'n Crunch, or productivity vs. time since last ejaculation, or stocking fetishes. And the on-topic bits about information flow are fascinating.


Gris - Apr 12, 2004 11:48:18 am PDT #2175 of 10002
Hey. New board.

Cryptonomicon was awesome, as your post reminded me. I should read it again.

Right now, I've retreated again into silly fantasy. Summers at Castle Auburn by Sharon Shinn, to be precise.

I really like Sharon Shinn. Her works are basically innocent romance novels with interesting characters (especially interesting females), set in fantastic locations. The Samaria novels are her most famous, beginning with Archangel, and actually become much more science fiction than fantasy, later in the series. They remind me of Orson Scott Card's Earth series a lot.

Recommended, if you enjoy fantasy.


Katerina Bee - Apr 12, 2004 11:53:38 am PDT #2176 of 10002
Herding cats for fun

I like Sharon Shinn too. I look forward to her latest novel, especially because it revisits the Samaria of Archangel.


hun_e - Apr 12, 2004 12:37:21 pm PDT #2177 of 10002
Meanwhile, back at the Hall of Justice...

Mary Sue, Mary Sue, Mary Sue. Mary Russell learns Arabic in six weeks, shoots like a sniper, understands the complex local politics, convinces their misogynistic guides that a woman can be as cool and tough as they are, flirts and captivates diplomats at the embassy soiree.... Mary Russell is perfect and everyone lurves her! Gah. Even her "flaws" are the approved ones: stubborn, decisive, too intelligent and independent for her time. Bleah.


I agree with you somewhat... I just think it's nice to have a strong female character... also one thing I didn't like about the book was the way the twists were revealed and not explained, like "okay, so who we thought was the bad guy was not the ultimate bad guy... oh yeah it's the guy you met for, like 5 seconds, and then we caught him and then we left... the end?" But I like the cheesier aspects of King's books... not too intellectually fulfilling, but sometimes that's what I want.


tina f. - Apr 13, 2004 2:57:57 am PDT #2178 of 10002

Today's NYT (reg req) has an editorial about teenagers/students, freedom of speech, imagination and creative writing by Michael Chabon.

It made me all allergic. And pretty angry as well (at censor-loving asshats, not Chabon - of course).

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