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tina f. - Apr 13, 2004 2:57:57 am PDT #2178 of 10002

Today's NYT (reg req) has an editorial about teenagers/students, freedom of speech, imagination and creative writing by Michael Chabon.

It made me all allergic. And pretty angry as well (at censor-loving asshats, not Chabon - of course).

Solitude and the Fortresses of Youth


Calli - Apr 13, 2004 3:55:07 am PDT #2179 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm reading A Door into Ocean, by Joan Slonczewski, for my book group. It's making me wonder if I've lost my ability to read SF. I cut my teeth on Heinlein and Asimov, devoured Ursula K. LeGuin's stuff, adored Zelazny's books. But I'm a couple of chapters into ADiO and I'm not sure I want to finish it. Everything is so selfconciously, "Oooooooh, we're an alien culture!" And there are a bunch of characters with names like Tithina the Indecipherable. I keep waiting for the punchline, but I have a growing dread that the author is serious. And there's over 300 pages to go.

Has anyone else read this book? Is there something I'm just not getting?


Snacky - Apr 13, 2004 5:33:55 am PDT #2180 of 10002
Like I need a hole in my head

Anyone read Jodi Picoult? I've never read any of her other books, but I stayed up until 2 a.m. reading her new one, My Sister's Keeper. I'm half-asleep at my desk now, but so worth it!

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had recs for her others.


amyparker - Apr 13, 2004 6:16:50 am PDT #2181 of 10002
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

tina, thank you. I have mailed that link to most of the teenagers I know (and that's a surprisingly large number). Kenny's sitting here muttering "He gets it. He gets it," over and over.

Calli, I haven't read it, but it sounds as if I'd be laughing unkindly by this point in the book. Not much help, I know.


beth b - Apr 13, 2004 6:26:49 am PDT #2182 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I just read speak last night. really powerful book. YA books are so very different than what i grew up on.


DavidS - Apr 13, 2004 8:36:12 am PDT #2183 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Great stuff by Chabon:

It is in the nature of a teenager to want to destroy. The destructive impulse is universal among children of all ages, rises to a peak of vividness, ingenuity and fascination in adolescence, and thereafter never entirely goes away. Violence and hatred, and the fear of our own inability to control them in ourselves, are a fundamental part of our birthright, along with altruism, creativity, tenderness, pity and love. It therefore requires an immense act of hypocrisy to stigmatize our young adults and teenagers as agents of deviance and disorder. It requires a policy of dishonesty about and blindness to our own histories, as a species, as a nation, and as individuals who were troubled as teenagers, and who will always be troubled, by the same dark impulses. It also requires that favorite tool of the hypocritical, dishonest and fearful: the suppression of constitutional rights.


deborah grabien - Apr 13, 2004 8:40:05 am PDT #2184 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Damn, Mike rocks. I'm having one of my occasional "green with jealousy of Ayelet" moments. He's just so damned cool, in every way.

I'm rereading Kavalier and Klay at the moment. It's just as brilliant the second time around.


erikaj - Apr 13, 2004 8:45:22 am PDT #2185 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I compared it to Homicide at PF...but it so reminded me of something, I was like "I've read this..." But no, it was Pembleton's whole "Everyone's guilty of something" thing. And I'm gonna be writing on my walls any second, huh?


Alicia K - Apr 13, 2004 11:07:56 am PDT #2186 of 10002
Uncertainty could be our guiding light.

I've read The Pact by Jodi Picoult. It was a good story, but a tad melodramatic, I thought. I always mean to try another of hers, but never know where to start. I may pick up the new one once it hits paperback.


Beverly - Apr 13, 2004 12:00:54 pm PDT #2187 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

The Chabon piece is wonderful. Tina, thanks for sharing it.