Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Dana - Mar 11, 2004 7:54:42 am PST #1252 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, the endings of Gaudy Night and Busman's Honeymoon.


justkim - Mar 11, 2004 8:04:47 am PST #1253 of 10002
Another social casualty...

I love the end of The Wizard of Oz. I love that it's not a dream, because, as much as I love the movie, the ending always rankled.


Ginger - Mar 11, 2004 8:06:39 am PST #1254 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Yes, Gaudy Night. It's just complicated to say why, since it's the romantic ending you want after three books' worth of proposals and evasions.


Nilly - Mar 11, 2004 8:11:47 am PST #1255 of 10002
Swouncing

I love that it's not a dream, because, as much as I love the movie, the ending always rankled.

There was a movie they made combined of several of the later Oz books, Return to Oz, that had an ending which left it somewhat open as to whether it was a dream or a reality (several same actors played characters both in the 'real' world and in Oz). My mom took my brother and me to see it, and I think that until this day, more than 15 years later, we're both still arguing with her regarding that point (we say it wasn't a dream, mom say it was).


Dana - Mar 11, 2004 8:12:22 am PST #1256 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's just complicated to say why, since it's the romantic ending you want after three books' worth of proposals and evasions.

Yeah. And because it's true to the characters and the themes of the book. And because it involves Oxford and Bach.


DavidS - Mar 11, 2004 8:17:27 am PST #1257 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

There was a movie they made combined of several of the later Oz books, Return to Oz,

I love and own this movie. It's actually based on the second and third Oz books. Also has the great Dorothy-facing-electroshock-therapy scenes.


Nilly - Mar 11, 2004 8:24:48 am PST #1258 of 10002
Swouncing

I love and own this movie.

What did you think about the ending - was it only a dream?

Also has the great Dorothy-facing-electroshock-therapy scenes.

And the one with the witch changing her heads, and all the heads screaming at night when Dorothy tries to steal something from where the witch keeps them.

It was the first time we ever saw Jack Pumpkinhead (my brother liked hom so much he made a costume of a pumpkinhead for one of the following Purims).


Katie M - Mar 11, 2004 8:29:39 am PST #1259 of 10002
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah. And because it's true to the characters and the themes of the book. And because it involves Oxford and Bach.

Is that the one that requires Latin and an understanding of Oxford protocol?


Dana - Mar 11, 2004 8:31:50 am PST #1260 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Well, yes.

But that aside, I'm thinking of everything that happens after the mystery is resolved as the ending. The Bach concert, and Peter and Harriet's conversation on the roof, the mutual apologies, and their realizations of what the past however many (five?) years have meant to them.


DavidS - Mar 11, 2004 8:32:12 am PST #1261 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What did you think about the ending - was it only a dream?

No, because the whole point of the electroshock is to cure Dorothy of her continuing delusions about Oz. The movie is largely a redress to the other movie ending, by saying, Dorothy's not messed up, she's just a plucky girl that went to a weird world.

And the one with the witch changing her heads, and all the heads screaming at night when Dorothy tries to steal something from where the witch keeps them.

Creepy scene, huh? And straight from the book. Of course, one of the books the movie draws from is the story of Tip, a boy who is in reality the disguised empress of Oz, Ozma. So it has a big ol' gender change reveal at the end which Disney was never going to touch. Actually I think they did a great job of combining the two books into one. Harlan Ellison is a big fan of this movie, too. It's something we talked about when I had lunch at his house. He's a huge Oz fan.