I mean, a person is allowed to not like whatever they want to not like. But what is it that makes someone think they have the right to demand that the creator of a given work change that work to suit their whiny ass? How does that thought process work?

I realize that, tommyrot. Like I said, I don't have a problem with random if it serves this story in some fashion. This just feels like some random passerby on the street decided to punch me in the kidneys for the hell of it.

Also, someone sitting next to me suggested that maybe Wash died because Alan Tudyk's career was taking off and he didn't want to make more Firefly movies. Or maybe it was that Joss wanted more for River to do in future movies.

Or maybe the ultimate point was that death is random and sad and unexpected sometimes.

I thought Wash's death was random and pointless, but all death is. Death is unfair and unjustifiable and full of horror and meaninglessness. Book's death was easier on the stomach (for me) because he got to say something before he went, and we got to see Mal's reaction to it--how it steeled his resolve and set him on a course of belief he might not have found otherwise. In that way it felt more purposeful, but its very purposiveness almost cheapened it; it was there for a reason and it served a purpose. It was a plot point. Wash's death was a sucker punch to the gut, out of nowhere, surreal in its suddenness and finality. Tara was right--it's always sudden.

The death of someone we love so viscerally cannot ever be a plot point. Its function cannot be the thing that gives it meaning.

Good art makes you reel, makes you sob, makes you sick to your stomach, makes you ache. I think Wash's death did exactly what it was supposed to do.

Edit: Er, or What Scrappy Said.

Exellent post, Jen.

Also, like I paraphrased from something you said in your post, Book's death probably made everyone breathe a sigh of relief - no matter how someone got wounded at that point, you wouldn't think that Joss would kill someone else off, except possibly in a noble, sacrificing way. By doing Wash the way he did, all bets are off and anyone is fair game. Maybe it makes it too tense to enjoy for some, but I, for one, would have enjoyed the torture. Not so much now, however. Oh well - my choice.

I still can't believe Sean Maher and Morena Baccarin were in the theater with us watching the movie. They stayed afterwards and signed stuff; I didn't stick around but many, many people did.

Have there been reports of other cast members being at the screenings in other cities?

Edit: Thanks, Frankenbuddha!

EagainTA that my take on Wash's death shouldn't be seen as me saying it's the only way to feel about it. Just want to be sure that's clear.

AB in...Seattle I think I saw someone say.

Nathan and Ron in Austin.

I read Gina and Alan in SF, but have not had it confirmed.

No celebs in Chicago or Atlanta.

Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure.

I heard:

Joss & Summer in Vegas

Adam in Seattle

Yeah, I can't help feeling somewhat betrayed by Wash's death as well. I mean, separation of fiction and reality, blah blah blah, yes, and it's Joss's thing to do with as he pleases. But it just felt off to me. It felt wrong in a way that most other deaths in the various Jossverses haven't. And I don't feel that it served an important narrative purpose. It was a stunning scene, a beautiful sendoff, and had I believed it necessary to the story, I wouldn't have been quite as distraught. But it felt cruel to me, especially followed by the several other near-death fakeouts just afterwards. I was literally gasping during that part; I felt like I'd been punched, and I didn't know what I'd done to deserve it.

edit: Both Jen and Robin make excellent points, of course, that its very randomness and pointlessness is what makes it all the more affecting, and maybe with a little more distance, I'll come to see it that way as well. Right now, I'm just feeling the unfairness of it too keenly. We'd just gotten him (all of them) back, and then for him to die so suddenly... okay, I'm just repeating myself at this point, but it really, really hurt .