Mal: Cut it out. Job's not done until we're back on Serenity. Zoe: Sorry, sir. Didn't mean to enjoy the moment.

'Ariel'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


DXMachina - Jun 25, 2003 11:57:59 am PDT #214 of 1424
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Unapologetically sneaky. Like Jayne being unapologetically thugish.

Yeah, I was thinking that Saffron is basically Jayne with a brain.


DCJensen - Jun 25, 2003 6:28:17 pm PDT #215 of 1424
All is well that ends in pizza.

Yeah, I was thinking that Saffron is basically Jayne with a brain.

Except Saffron does not have "man parts."

Mal would have noticed.


Lee - Jun 25, 2003 6:29:27 pm PDT #216 of 1424
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

But would he have cared?


Holli - Jun 27, 2003 6:54:17 pm PDT #217 of 1424
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Just watched "The Message." Crying now.


DCJensen - Jun 27, 2003 10:15:59 pm PDT #218 of 1424
All is well that ends in pizza.

Yeah, with the Kaylee and the listening, and the.....


Rayne - Jul 15, 2003 10:38:40 am PDT #219 of 1424
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire

Well, I've seen the three unaired episodes, and I'm not overly impressed. I think it's because of a couple different reasons.

1) I built them up in my mind before I saw them and there was no way they could live up to my expectations.

2) I don't consider them to be bad episodes, but when compared to the other episodes at the end of the series (Out of Gas, Ariel, War Stories and Objects in Space) they just can't compare.

Plus, it probably didn't help that my favorite character (River) was barely featured much at all. I guess I prefer the episodes that deal with our core group more than featured guests.


Holli - Jul 15, 2003 10:43:24 am PDT #220 of 1424
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

See, I loooved "The Message." Loved it. That ending made me cry harder than anything since Oz left Willow. I have no idea why it hit me so strongly, but it did.


DXMachina - Jul 15, 2003 10:56:40 am PDT #221 of 1424
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I thought "Heart of Gold" was the worst episode of the series. It was just one long cliche, and Inara behaves as though she's 12. My big disappointment is that I know she's still on the ship in the next episode. My biggest disappointment is that the last new episode I'll ever watch sucked so badly.

I liked "The Message", although I didn't quite buy that Tracy would try to sell the organs to the highest bidder while his are still missing, and I liked "Trash", even though there are logical holes you could drive a truck through. The dialogue made up for it, even if Mal obviously graduated from the Angel school of planning.


DCJensen - Jul 15, 2003 12:02:37 pm PDT #222 of 1424
All is well that ends in pizza.

My big disappointment is that I know she's still on the ship in the next episode.

Well, she's on the ship, but leaving soon in the next ep. "Heart Of Gold" is the next to last episode in the proper sequence, and her leaving is addressed in the script for the next and final episode, which we saw edited, "Objects in Space."

I guess I thought it addressed the cliche rather well and made a few points, too.

Proper order list for this thread:

    Serenity
    The Train Job
    Bushwhacked
    Shindig
    Safe
    Our Mrs. Reynolds
    Jaynestown
    Out of Gas
    Dead or Alive (not filmed)
    Ariel
    War Stories
    Trash
    The Message
    Heart of Gold
    Objects in Space (If restored)

Basically, it's mentioned in the script that she is leaving...but she hasn't told the rest of the crew. I don' remember the aired version, and that tape died, so...


Jon B. - Jul 15, 2003 2:41:03 pm PDT #223 of 1424
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

her leaving is addressed in the script for the next and final episode, which we saw edited, "Objects in Space."

And which will be restored for the DVDs per Tim's post here -- Tim Minear "Firefly 2: You Can't Take the Sky From Me." Jun 14, 2003 9:16:41 am PDT -- "Joss made a minor adjustment in "Objects" when we aired it, and restored said change for the DVD order."