You know, if you look at Wash's death as a plot device to get Zoe into that dress, I don't see how it wasn't worth it.
Excellent point. That dress. GT in that dress.
I hope she kept it. It's fucking incredible on her.
Bunnies frighten me.
Anya ,'Help'
Firefly Spoilers
Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
Cashmere - Sep 28, 2005 2:36:16 pm PDT #1347 of 1424
Now tagless for your comfort.
§ ita § - Sep 28, 2005 2:38:50 pm PDT #1348 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If I had a dress that made me look that good, I'd have a dozen made up, but still never take off the original.
Steph L. - Sep 28, 2005 2:39:27 pm PDT #1349 of 1424
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
When I picked up my comics today, cute comic-book guy showed me the Serenity RPG book. (Or *a* book; there may be more than one, I dunno.)
I told him that I was less of a Firefly fan than many Whedon fans are, but that I did see the sneak preview of the movie. Comic-book guy said "My only problem with the movie was that, okay, Reavers: savage, basically mindless killing/raping/destroying creatures. So how is it that they still have the brain capacity to be so good at piloting and navigating spaceships?"
Heh. Made *me* laugh.
§ ita § - Sep 28, 2005 2:42:22 pm PDT #1350 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
There's precedent. Consider the Chelsea fan navigating the Underground to get to the soccer game. Add futuristic drugs, and lo! Reaver.
Allyson - Sep 28, 2005 7:09:21 pm PDT #1351 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
KernelM - Sep 28, 2005 7:31:54 pm PDT #1352 of 1424
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World
Penelope von Whistleblower? Nice.
ETA: Ok, just to be sure: is that you, Allyson?
Michele T. - Sep 28, 2005 7:58:23 pm PDT #1353 of 1424
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Whedon has become the first filmmaker in history to require an audience to watch a 13 hour DVD set prequel in order to understand what the fuck is going on in his film.
Mwah!
You didn't go to one of the screenings on Whedon's birthday, did you? Where they sang happy birthday to him in absentia and had people sign a banner? I did want to sign it "Dear Joss, please stop believing your own press," but I didn't want to harsh anyone's mellow.
DavidS - Sep 28, 2005 8:04:57 pm PDT #1354 of 1424
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'm all for various points of view, but don't know if I want to hang around for the full Whedon backlash, now with extra bile.
Mr. Broom - Sep 28, 2005 8:14:36 pm PDT #1355 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Hec is me. Fully willing to admit that it's probably extreme bias influencing me, but I can't sync up to the all-over naysayers. Not getting what it is that inspires such fervent anger, even after reading the explanations of just that.
Strega - Sep 28, 2005 8:53:00 pm PDT #1356 of 1424
But, but, I was there before there was bile! Ask Matt! He sometimes hated me! Which is fine, truly, and that's part of why I like Matt, and why it means so much to me when he would very occasionally agree with me. And I'm not namechecking him to imply that he agrees me with me about the next paragraph, because I'm pretty sure he doesn't. I'm namechecking him on the "it's not personal" front. It's not.
I do not like Whedon, because I think he cannot plot, and plot is very important to me. I have friends who like Whedon, and I argue with them, and it's fun, because we understand that it isn't personal. And... that's all. I really, really did not like Firefly, and I understand if it is a sore point in this thread, so I don't go tromping around saying "Bleh," just to rain on people's parade. But... I also don't like being lumped in like we're part of some groupthink backlash. We can honestly not like something that you honestly liked. It's fine. Some people that I respect think the movie rocked. It doesn't stop me from wanting to be friends with them. I'll just argue with them, and continue to like them despite their being Wrong. (And that's a joke, to be clear.)