It was Meria the two times I went.
My work's illegal, but at least it's honest.
Mal ,'Shindig'
Firefly Spoilers
Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
Kalshane - Jul 14, 2005 3:43:40 pm PDT #1161 of 1424
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
HiddenSky - Jul 15, 2005 1:25:05 pm PDT #1162 of 1424
"There are two sorts of people in the world: those who believe Joss Whedon is a genius and those who are wrong." - Connie Ogle, Miami Herald
I'm pretty certain I saw Derrial in Philly both times.
tianxiaode - Jul 15, 2005 4:19:53 pm PDT #1163 of 1424
Adrian Pasdar: bringing hot (and ambiguously gay) to a new level since Top Gun.
Meria each time for me. Atlanta & Charlotte.
sumi - Jul 18, 2005 11:04:52 am PDT #1164 of 1424
Art Crawl!!!
Oops. . . that was meant for elsewhere.
Tamara - Jul 18, 2005 2:12:55 pm PDT #1165 of 1424
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
It looked like Deria to me last Saturday Night at the ComicCon screening.
Kalshane - Jul 26, 2005 5:30:45 am PDT #1166 of 1424
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
So, I'm thinking about the "retcon" and wondering if maybe we're going to have a reveal in the Serenity comic book that explains it.
Based on what we see in the movie: Simon getting River out and his competence in doing so as well Simon knowing exactly what was done to River, including a safety word to stop her.
Versus the TV series: Simon says he paid a group to smuggle her out in cryo. Simon claims to have no knowledge of what was done to River and denies any suspicions of her being psychic. Simon's "Master of Disguise" bit on Canton.
The only way these two add up is if Simon were lying to the crew of Serenity from the beginning and playing up his incompetence. Which would make sense from his standpoint. He's an intelligent man surrounded by smugglers and thieves, keeping them in the dark as much as possible as well as making them underestimate him in case things go wrong.
At some point in comic, Mal finds out Simon's been "playing" them from day one and understandibly doesn't take it well. This would certainly explain the antagonism between them in the movie versus Mal's "You're on my crew." and nearly spacing Jayne for betraying him and them during the series.
Granted, this is still a complete and utter retcon, and I don't like that at all, but at least it makes some degree of sense.
Mr. Broom - Jul 26, 2005 7:00:50 am PDT #1167 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Which is why I expect they won't address it at all. It'd take away from the authenticity of, to state a previous example, Simon's Master of Disguise moment. In fact, it'd take away from at least half of his awkwardness throughout the series. I for one hope they don't try to reconcile this. Sometimes things like this have to be ignored a little or stories will start to suck hardcore for the sake of making everything pat.
Tamara - Jul 26, 2005 7:42:54 am PDT #1168 of 1424
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
I am with Mr. Broom on this. I hate it when things that don't make sense are forced to make sense. I have two stories. One is Firefly and one is Serenity. I feel no real need to make these two stories fit seamlessly.
Mr. Broom - Jul 26, 2005 7:46:05 am PDT #1169 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Right. Believe me, you start doing that and you will never be able to watch more than one season of any Star Trek ever again. All you'll ever do is yell at the screen.
Kalshane - Jul 26, 2005 10:15:26 am PDT #1170 of 1424
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
The problem is, the Simon we see in Serenity is completely at odds with the Simon we see in Firefly. Him being cool and confident and BSing his way into a highly-secure Alliance facility in ordrer to rescue River himself completely invalidates those moments from Firefly, with or without an explanation.
The more I think about it, the more the retcon bothers me.