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Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Vonnie K - Mar 01, 2005 8:58:08 am PST #9906 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

So, the Escapade reports have been trickling down in LJ-land so I went and downloaded the McKay/Sheppard vid by Danvers everyone has been squeeing about (destina linked to it here in case anyone is interested) and... huh. Am I missing something? I *like* the pairing, I see good chemistry between the two (although I'm not as squeetastic about them as some other people) and have even read a few M/S stories and loved them, but this vid--there's nothing happening there. The song is nice and evocative and it's a really good-looking vid, but the whole vid is just alternating face shots of McKay and Sheppard looking intense and vaguely angsty and sort of constipated. I understand it's a relationship vid, but it's a relationship in a vacuum--there's little backstory (well, OK, one shot of Atlantis ravaged by the storm) and no other characters from Atlantis on the vid, and I'm sitting there going, "what did I miss?"

I do remember there was a discussion after the first Vividcon a couple of years back (or was is from an Escapade vid show?) about the backlash from the people who felt like the whole ethos of con, the emphasis on relationship and on slash in particular, got shortcharged by the vidders who were more into techniques than portrayal of relationships. Coming from the other side, I guess I fall into the camp that's no longer happy with a straightforward relationship vid, because I just... wanted more.

Anyhow. Just thinking out loud and didn't want to go blabbering in people's squee space and harsh their mellow.


Katie M - Mar 01, 2005 9:07:44 am PST #9907 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I've downloaded it, but I was holding off until after the season was done because I understand it's got shots from the finale. Am I being overcautious?


Dana - Mar 01, 2005 9:08:11 am PST #9908 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I haven't watched it for the same reason.


Vonnie K - Mar 01, 2005 9:25:32 am PST #9909 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Am I being overcautious?

Well, if you've watched the latest episode ("The Brotherhood"), you probably can guess that Wraiths are about to mount an attack on Atlantis. There is a shot of wraith ships advancing on the planet at the beginning, but other than that, I don't think there is much spoilerish material in the vid.


Vonnie K - Mar 01, 2005 1:01:32 pm PST #9910 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Actually, Sal posted about the vid on her LJ, and reading it, I realize that most of the clips from the last 20 seconds or so are from "The Siege" and you may need a context of those episodes to be able to appreciate the vid better.

Hmm. I've watched the season finale, and the vid still did nothing for me. I think a large part of it is that there's a disconnect between the kind of relationship the vidder was trying to convey there (intense, tortured, afraid for each other) and the one in my head (snarktastic banter-filled adversarial married couple thang.) Plus, in my head, McKay and slo-mo are unmixy things.


shrift - Mar 01, 2005 1:10:50 pm PST #9911 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I'm sitting there going, "what did I miss?"

Huh. Dunno. It could be a case of people dancing around gleefully when someone makes a vid that doesn't completely suck when there's a dearth of vids in their fandom or pairing of choice.

It allows people to use the vid for pimping ("See, this is what they look like! Aren't they CUTE?!") while also not being of such high quality to discourage others from trying (like, say, that simultaneous squee and self-esteem nosedive thing I do when shalott does something fabulous in one of my writing fandoms) to vid the pairing/fandom themselves.


DavidS - Mar 01, 2005 1:14:36 pm PST #9912 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It allows people to use the vid for pimping

Begging the question...What are the all-time best vids for pimping a particular fandom?

What vid would you use to pimp Farscape?


Katie M - Mar 01, 2005 1:15:56 pm PST #9913 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Birgit's Adiemus, which is all about the pretty and doesn't require knowledge of the source. Um, I think the funny Holding Out For A Hero one was Birgit too, come to think of it, and that'd be another good one--very accessible.


Vonnie K - Mar 01, 2005 1:27:35 pm PST #9914 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

What vid would you use to pimp Farscape?

"Right Here, Right Now" by Tazey (scroll down to near the end of the page). Good introduction to each character at the beginning, wonderful driving beat, tons of energy, looks gorgeous, with lots of ass-kicking and angst without being *too* spoilery--it has John's twinning, but not any of the major deaths, I think.

What are the all-time best vids for pimping a particular fandom?

Seah & Margie are the best pimps for little-heard fandoms. I think "Haunted" (for Odyssey 5) and "Big Red Boat" (for Joan of Arcadia) are pretty difficult to beat as pimping vids go. I know a lot of people swear by "Solisbury Hill" for Stargate SG-1. Oh! And Here's Luck's Wonderfalls vid, "Window of Opportunity".

Edited to provide links.


shrift - Mar 01, 2005 1:28:00 pm PST #9915 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

What are the all-time best vids for pimping a particular fandom?

Depends on the level of knowledge of the pimp-ee, I guess...

For total newbies, the vids which usually provoke a "I need to know what that is!!!" reaction are usually incredibly intense, with slick editing, vibrant colors, and just enough narrative structure to hook the viewer. Comedy can also work, so long as it's funny out of the show's context.

As for specifics... well, I'm at work, and thus away from all my resources. May chime in later.

What vid would you use to pimp Farscape?

Where's Consuela? I think she's seen more Farscape vids than I have...