Angel: Will you just shut up for once?! Illyria: What? Angel: My God, the speechifying. Has it ever occurred to you that now might not be the best time for when-we-were-muck stories?

'Time Bomb'


Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.


Vonnie K - Mar 01, 2005 9:25:32 am PST #9909 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Am I being overcautious?

Well, if you've watched the latest episode ("The Brotherhood"), you probably can guess that Wraiths are about to mount an attack on Atlantis. There is a shot of wraith ships advancing on the planet at the beginning, but other than that, I don't think there is much spoilerish material in the vid.


Vonnie K - Mar 01, 2005 1:01:32 pm PST #9910 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Actually, Sal posted about the vid on her LJ, and reading it, I realize that most of the clips from the last 20 seconds or so are from "The Siege" and you may need a context of those episodes to be able to appreciate the vid better.

Hmm. I've watched the season finale, and the vid still did nothing for me. I think a large part of it is that there's a disconnect between the kind of relationship the vidder was trying to convey there (intense, tortured, afraid for each other) and the one in my head (snarktastic banter-filled adversarial married couple thang.) Plus, in my head, McKay and slo-mo are unmixy things.


shrift - Mar 01, 2005 1:10:50 pm PST #9911 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I'm sitting there going, "what did I miss?"

Huh. Dunno. It could be a case of people dancing around gleefully when someone makes a vid that doesn't completely suck when there's a dearth of vids in their fandom or pairing of choice.

It allows people to use the vid for pimping ("See, this is what they look like! Aren't they CUTE?!") while also not being of such high quality to discourage others from trying (like, say, that simultaneous squee and self-esteem nosedive thing I do when shalott does something fabulous in one of my writing fandoms) to vid the pairing/fandom themselves.


DavidS - Mar 01, 2005 1:14:36 pm PST #9912 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It allows people to use the vid for pimping

Begging the question...What are the all-time best vids for pimping a particular fandom?

What vid would you use to pimp Farscape?


Katie M - Mar 01, 2005 1:15:56 pm PST #9913 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Birgit's Adiemus, which is all about the pretty and doesn't require knowledge of the source. Um, I think the funny Holding Out For A Hero one was Birgit too, come to think of it, and that'd be another good one--very accessible.


Vonnie K - Mar 01, 2005 1:27:35 pm PST #9914 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

What vid would you use to pimp Farscape?

"Right Here, Right Now" by Tazey (scroll down to near the end of the page). Good introduction to each character at the beginning, wonderful driving beat, tons of energy, looks gorgeous, with lots of ass-kicking and angst without being *too* spoilery--it has John's twinning, but not any of the major deaths, I think.

What are the all-time best vids for pimping a particular fandom?

Seah & Margie are the best pimps for little-heard fandoms. I think "Haunted" (for Odyssey 5) and "Big Red Boat" (for Joan of Arcadia) are pretty difficult to beat as pimping vids go. I know a lot of people swear by "Solisbury Hill" for Stargate SG-1. Oh! And Here's Luck's Wonderfalls vid, "Window of Opportunity".

Edited to provide links.


shrift - Mar 01, 2005 1:28:00 pm PST #9915 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

What are the all-time best vids for pimping a particular fandom?

Depends on the level of knowledge of the pimp-ee, I guess...

For total newbies, the vids which usually provoke a "I need to know what that is!!!" reaction are usually incredibly intense, with slick editing, vibrant colors, and just enough narrative structure to hook the viewer. Comedy can also work, so long as it's funny out of the show's context.

As for specifics... well, I'm at work, and thus away from all my resources. May chime in later.

What vid would you use to pimp Farscape?

Where's Consuela? I think she's seen more Farscape vids than I have...


Consuela - Mar 01, 2005 3:26:44 pm PST #9916 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Vonnie beat me to it -- Tazey's Right Here, Right Now, which I can watch over and over and over again.

Birgit's Adiemus is also lovely, and much with the pretty. I also hooked a few people with my pal Fi's Lovers in a Dangerous Time, but she hasn't uploaded it anywhere, because someone else made a vid using the same song.

Laura Shapiro and Morgandawn's "Wonder of Birds" is a marvelous pimping vid for Due South: it's pretty, the music's great, and you really don't need to know the source to get the joy.

As for Danvers' vid, I liked it well enough, but Vonnie's right about the disconnect between how I see that slash pairing and the tone of the vid. I also thought it was too long and too slow for a show with that much action: she had to use a lot of slow-mo. Or chose to; either way, it didn't make me swoon.

Still, as Shrift points out (or was it Dana? I'm too lazy to go upthread to look), there's a shortage of vids in that fandom at all, much less good ones.


Vonnie K - Mar 01, 2005 4:13:21 pm PST #9917 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I liked it well enough, but Vonnie's right about the disconnect between how I see that slash pairing and the tone of the vid.

OK, whew. I was feeling kind of freakish in being the only one who didn't love the vid to death, especially since Des and Otter and Sal seem to all love it so much, and I usually respect their tastes. It struck me as too technically simple--and I'm not talking about fancy dissolves and special effects and color filters and so forth. It's the kind of frames she chose--like, one "reaction" face shot after another, all looking terribly angsty, unwarrantedly so IMO. I mean, at least Jack and Daniel had a lot of moments between them over which they can angst prettily. I wanted more movements, varied composition, something. And I'm of the opinion that most relationship vids are enhanced by including the other people who are important to the couple's lives--for example, Gwyn's Wes & Lilah vid, "Valentine Heart" would have been much poorer had it not included the clips with Fred and Angel.

When it comes down to it, I think it may be simple as the fact that I may read and enjoy slash, but I am not a real slasher--I don't have the overpowering desire to look for deep, heartfelt subtext that's not at least partially supported by the canon as in, say, Angel and Lindsey. (Although, I can't imagine I'd be anything but Lukewarm to a similar sort of vid involving, say, Mulder and Scully.)

Laura and Morgandawn's "Wonder of Birds"! I friggin' love that vid. I should really watch my dS season 3 DVDs, which have been languishing on my top shelf for months. Man, I have way too many shows.


Katie M - Mar 01, 2005 4:30:28 pm PST #9918 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Vonnie beat me to it -- Tazey's Right Here, Right Now, which I can watch over and over and over again.

Huh. I adore that vid beyond the telling of it, but it strikes me as the kind of thing that is going to be tough for someone unfamiliar with the canon to get. I've never tried it on someone who doesn't know Farscape, though; I suppose it's entirely possible that it would succeed based on the Pretty.